StrangeSox Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Balta1701 said: I am not embedding this video because someone dies in it, but here is the link. https://twitter.com/partisangirl/status/1347090927811104768?s=21 While the woman is shot yesterday, she is banging on a window. There are 5 officers in riot gear behind her who weren’t stopping the crowd at all from trying to breach the door they were at. They immediately began rendering aid. Their colleague inside was disturbed enough about the situation to pull his gun and open fire (I won’t even judge if that shot was deliberately taken), and there are 5 fully geared officers there not helping control the crowd at all. She was climbing through a smashed and barricaded window into the final secured perimeter. There's another angle more from behind that shows she's was stepping through. Not directly related, but it was absurd to see people defending the DC police in this thread. A complete and total failure at their mission and an easy and disturbing contrast to how they and many other police forces across the country handled police-brutality protesters throughout the summer. Maybe they should have stopped these people? DC police have a half a fucking billion dollar budget. Law enforcement across the country have "intelligence fusion centers." This was all planned and discussed out in the open, and they were completely unprepared for it. Why? You don't even have to go down the rabbit hole of coordination or anything; they showed that at best they are deeply incompetent and incapable of carrying out their most basic functions. Tear it down and start over. Edited January 7, 2021 by StrangeSox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 (edited) 31 minutes ago, bmags said: One of the reasons it’s important to act quickly when everyone agrees something terrible happened is the more time passes after the event, the more stories are created for those who want to be sympathetic to latch onto to promote that it wasn’t that bad and was nobodies fault. Sean Davis, editor of the federalist, is now pushing that the mob thought they were allowed into the capitol and didn’t understand why police were trying to stop them. It was all a big misunderstanding! Dont believe that? Well it was also Antifa dressed as MAGA Don't worry, Democratic leadership is already rolling over and moving on. As we learned from all of the criminal actions of the Nixon, Reagan, HW, and W administrations, if you simply turn a blind eye to it, it'll go away! Definitely won't continually escalate. It's a complete failure of our institutions that Trump is still President today. Edited January 7, 2021 by StrangeSox 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KipWellsFan Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 So did Pence do that part where he says Biden has been elected President? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWINFan Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 8 minutes ago, StrangeSox said: Don't worry, Democratic leadership is already rolling over and moving on. As we learned from all of the criminal actions of the Nixon, Reagan, HW, and W administrations, if you simply turn a blind eye to it, it'll go away! Definitely won't continually escalate. It's a complete failure of our institutions that Trump is still President today. At the very least Trump should be impeached. Even if the Senate doesn't convict, Trump will be the only president to be impeached on two different occasions. That is one sure way to move on. To take no action against Trump would be a travesty. He's nothing but a criminal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 They will do nothing. Barely any of the terrorists who stormed the capitol yesterday will face consequences. And they'll be emboldened to do it again and again, just like they were when they didn't face consequences for storming state capitols over the summer. Longer Joe Scarborough cut: Right-wing media, social media, and sitting representatives are already pushing the dual "brave, bold patriots forced to do this/ANTIFA agitators actually did it" story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 2 hours ago, Texsox said: What is going to be great is we will survive this. Life will go on and this will be forgotten. What is going to be horrible is we will survive this. Life will go on and this will be forgotten. This is never going to be forgotten. The historical context is such that this will be talked about forever in American history. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/2021/01/06/US-capitol-trump-poll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 39 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: This is never going to be forgotten. The historical context is such that this will be talked about forever in American history. That doesn’t mean anything will change, and we will get to wait to see where the next one happens. Gotta get those voters out in 2022. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 (edited) No investigations. No hearings. No impeachment. Just pretend it all never happened and then be shocked and horrified when it happens again, but worse. Leadership. Edited January 7, 2021 by StrangeSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 1 hour ago, hogan873 said: So true. We're already forgetting about the 100+ representatives and senators who signed on to the ridiculous Texas lawsuit. None of them were held accountable. We're already shrugging our shoulders about the reps and senators who continued to object to the certification last night. How long before we remember yesterday as not such a big deal? How are they going to be held accountable? They'll raise hundreds of thousands of dollars for what they did and will get re-elected more easily. We need to triple the size of the House. Makes their districts smaller so it's harder to gerrymander, harder to raise big money, and has the added bonus of reducing the power of small states in the Electoral College. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, StrangeSox said: No investigations. No hearings. No impeachment. Just pretend it all never happened and then be shocked and horrified when it happens again, but worse. Leadership. This is exactly why Nancy Pelosi is a failure as a Speaker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: This is exactly why Nancy Pelosi is a failure as a Speaker. She is absolutely a failure along with most or maybe all of Dem leadership, but the core of the problem is the increasingly insane right wing which is a majority of the GOP these days. If this isn't aggressively handled, and of course it won't be, it'll be emboldened. We'll see the destruction of American democracy within our lifetimes. Edited January 7, 2021 by StrangeSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 43 minutes ago, Quin said: https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/2021/01/06/US-capitol-trump-poll This is so startling. How can anyone support this. Just goes to show you what these people believe - they must really believe all of this nonsense that the election was stolen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 1 hour ago, bmags said: I just want to know how often there are large expected protests at the capitol and only capitol police are assigned, and who planned for that day. Now these are good questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 Hahahaha Poor Pence 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, Chisoxfn said: This is so startling. How can anyone support this. Just goes to show you what these people believe - they must really believe all of this nonsense that the election was stolen. This is the modern GOP. They support it because the elected (including those who voted to certify the election - Graham, Blunt, Toomey, both Scotts, etc.) officials have supported all of Trump's lies and statements the past four years. Also, a bunch of people disgusted with the party dropped their affiliation, so you've had a distillation of the Republican Party while the Democratic Party became the big tent party that can include Joe Manchin and AOC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 Kinzinger calls for 25th amendment. I think 25th amendment is a bad idea, impeachment from house makes more sense because it also hangs over head of president. What happens if Trump still acts like he's president and you have a 2 popes issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Now these are good questions. Large, national police panopticon that manages to violently crack down on civil rights protests at the drop of a hat somehow missed this? The Chicago FOP president was fully justifying the actions of the insurrectionists. This is systemic and national. We saw over the summer that police forces don't feel accountable to civilian political leadership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, bmags said: Kinzinger calls for 25th amendment. I think 25th amendment is a bad idea, impeachment from house makes more sense because it also hangs over head of president. What happens if Trump still acts like he's president and you have a 2 popes issue. Agree with you about impeachment vs 25th, but Kinzinger has been anti-Trump for a long time so it's not news until someone like Lindsay Graham calls for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, WhiteSoxFan1993 said: Agree with you about impeachment vs 25th, but Kinzinger has been anti-Trump for a long time so it's not news until someone like Lindsay Graham calls for it. Well, that's true but Kinzinger didn't vote for impeachment articles and the 25th amendment honestly to me is worse. But yeah he's gearing up for a governor run and probably trying to take back the suburbs for IL republicans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 House members call for the 25th, hoping someone else will do their job. Cabinet members resign and call for impeachment, hoping someone else will shoulder their responsibility. House adjourns until after the inauguration, giving free reign for the next two weeks. Complete failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 18 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Hahahaha Poor Pence You mean if you do business with Trump or have a friendship, in the end you always get ripped off? Who knew? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KipWellsFan Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 17 minutes ago, bmags said: Kinzinger calls for 25th amendment. I think 25th amendment is a bad idea, impeachment from house makes more sense because it also hangs over head of president. What happens if Trump still acts like he's president and you have a 2 popes issue. Wouldn't impeachment take too long? Doesn't the President have a right to put up a defense on the Senate side, since it effectively functions as a trial? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 In other news: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 1 minute ago, KipWellsFan said: Wouldn't impeachment take too long? Doesn't the President have a right to put up a defense on the Senate side, since it effectively functions as a trial? Impeachment can be as fast as Congress wants it to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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