CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, ChiSoxJon said: Weird indeed Is this one of those specific target threads we have to use now instead of the off season targets thread that was closed ? That's 2 threads recently closed where it was just people talking to people about stuff stemming from baseball discussions. Edited December 4, 2020 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 4, 2020 Author Share Posted December 4, 2020 1 minute ago, TomPickle said: White Sox get: Yusei Kikuchi Mariners get: Jonathan Stiever Zach Collins Lency Delgado Hell yes! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleCoastBias Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Re: the Wheeler stuff, any word on if he had a no trade clause or list? Feel like it would be pretty awkward to be traded here a year after his family publicly said no to Chicago and turned down a higher offer. Not that he would necessarily have us on his NTC list, just got me thinking of that and the first awkward conversation he would have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourWhatHurts Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: Sox get: Spencer Howard Philies get: Yasmani Grandal and Nick Madrigal Yeah we can do that one for sure. I will also recycle my Grandal + Lopez for Vazquez + Eovaldi deal. The Red Sox say no to that and the Sox would have to add more, but it's a framework. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 34 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: White Sox get: Joe Musgrove Bryan Reynolds Pirates get: Jared Kelley Jonathan Stiever Micker Adolfo James Beard Kelley is on my untouchable list for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 25 minutes ago, soxfan49 said: Zavala for Mookie Betts Seems light. Dodgers need to throw in a prospect or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, MiddleCoastBias said: Re: the Wheeler stuff, any word on if he had a no trade clause or list? Feel like it would be pretty awkward to be traded here a year after his family publicly said no to Chicago and turned down a higher offer. Not that he would necessarily have us on his NTC list, just got me thinking of that and the first awkward conversation he would have. I thought the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 1 minute ago, manbearpuig said: I thought the same. Me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 (edited) White Sox get: Nick Senzel and Amir Garrett Reds get: Michael Kopech and Zach Burdi Edited December 4, 2020 by Harold's Leg Lift 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 1 hour ago, bmags said: Yankees Nobody ever wins trades with the yankees since the white sox acquired our dear sweet Jose Contreras. This trade will make people angry! White Sox Get: Gary Sanchez Mike Tauchman Yankees Get Nick Madrigal White sox get a player at his lowest value in Sanchez, whom they can use as DH until vaughn comes, and if he recovers have a cracker jack DH/C/1b rotation. Tauchman gets them a nice, cheap RF platoon against RHP pitchers. He was also down last year, but still had a good wRC+ against RHP and if he gets back to 2019 then he's a great option since he was not a platoon guy. Yankees keep Sanchez from signing with a rival in Tampa, get his salary off books, and replace Lemahieu with a cheap option and diversify their offensive attack I don't get this one at all. Gary Sanchez is an abysmal defensive catcher and he hasn't had an elite hitting season since 2017. At this point, there's a real question as to whether or not he is going to return to form AT the plate, and there isn't anything to suggest he is capable of improving BEHIND it. Isn't that pretty much what Zach Collins is? I don't know if either of these guys is going to hit going forward, and while I admit that the fact that Sanchez has in the past makes him more likely to do so, Collins younger, cheaper, and we wouldn't be giving up Nick Madrigal to get him. I like Tauchman just fine, but if we're creating a hole with a trade, we'd better also be filling one -- preferably on the mound, IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: White Sox get: Nick Senzel and Amir Garrett Reds get: Michael Kopech and Nick Burdi I like this one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 8 minutes ago, MiddleCoastBias said: Re: the Wheeler stuff, any word on if he had a no trade clause or list? Feel like it would be pretty awkward to be traded here a year after his family publicly said no to Chicago and turned down a higher offer. Not that he would necessarily have us on his NTC list, just got me thinking of that and the first awkward conversation he would have. It never sounds like Wheeler was anti-Sox, in fact if you believe the reports, the Sox thought a deal was done. It was that he wanted to stay closer to home in Philly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: White Sox get: Nick Senzel and Amir Garrett Reds get: Michael Kopech and Nick Burdi You mean Zack, right? Or did I miss something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourWhatHurts Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 12 minutes ago, TomPickle said: White Sox get: Yusei Kikuchi Mariners get: Jonathan Stiever Zach Collins Lency Delgado holy shit that's bad Sox could probably get him just for taking on his contract. They can have Bernardo Flores. Why would we want this guy anyway? Are we trying to get worse? Just start Dunning, he's already here and isn't making $17M next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, DirtySox said: I like this one. I think that's gross. Isn't Garrett a reliever? Ew. While Senzel is a long term fit in RF, Don't you think you could get him for Dunning? Also I still like Zach Burdi. His stuff is back. He could easily still become the closer of the future for the Sox. Edited December 4, 2020 by Jack Parkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 17 minutes ago, bmags said: Now we’re talking To quote a wise man... 2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: It never sounds like Wheeler was anti-Sox, in fact if you believe the reports, the Sox thought a deal was done. It was that he wanted to stay closer to home in Philly. Also, he signed there under the auspices that the Phillies would be competing. With their budget in disarray, who knows if that's going to be a thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourWhatHurts Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Seriously, Grandal + Dunning for Wheeler. Then sign REALMUTO 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourWhatHurts Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Jack Parkman said: I think that's gross. Isn't Garrett a reliever? Ew. While Senzel is a long term fit in RF, Don't you think you could get him for Dunning? Also I still like Zach Burdi. Agree, that is disgusting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Just now, YourWhatHurts said: Seriously, Grandal + Dunning for Wheeler. Then sign REALMUTO Grandal for Wheeler, sign Realmuto is a good idea IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: Grandal for Wheeler, sign Realmuto is a good idea IMO. Except if you trade Grandal after one (pandemic shortened) season where he was still a net positive, no big free agents are going to sign here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, YourWhatHurts said: Agree, that is disgusting Yeah, and Senzel is yet another right handed bat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Just now, Quin said: Except if you trade Grandal after one (pandemic shortened) season where he was still a net positive, no big free agents are going to sign here. I don’t think it’s a big deal if you tell them that your pitchers didn’t like throwing to him 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREEDY Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Weird ideas? Marcus Stroman > Jace Fry, Micker Adolfo (based solely on the idea that the Mets may not have expected him to take the QO and there could be some hard feelings about sitting out last season) Kevin Gausman > Jonathon Stiever (While SF must have expected Gausman to take the QO, if they can't extend him I'd think he'd be a red hot trade target) Kole Calhoun > Blake Rutherford (AZ surely would like the shed his 8 million) Danny Jansen > Zach Collins (Local kid comes home if Jays get one of the big name catchers) Corbin Burnes, Lorenzo Cain > ? (Brewers are so intriguing, likely not enough talent to win, possibly over budget already, giant holes in their lineup, but still have several positive assets, if they need to shed payroll they could really be interesting this offseason. While the Sox trading for either Burnes or Woodruff likely isn't weird, them taking Cain's money and rolling the dice with him in RF likely qualifies for this thread) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Just now, Jack Parkman said: Yeah, and Senzel is yet another right handed bat. And always hurt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EloyJenkins Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Sox Get: Brandon Woodruff Christian Yelich Brewers Get Tons of Salary relief and: Vaughn Cease Dunning Collins Adolfo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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