KrankinSox Posted December 8, 2020 Author Share Posted December 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, Steve9347 said: What on earth am I reading here. This is Dane Dunning ffs. Hahn turned Jose Quintana into Eloy Jimenez and Dylan Cease. Am I in the twilight zone? Hahn traded Adam Eaton for 2/5ths of our 2021 starting staff...plus Lopez. A win by any measure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Dam8610 said: I'm upset because I see a lot of Shane Bieber in Dane Dunning. ^^^^^^ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 So for the record, this is a Tony deal and not a KW deal or a Hahn deal? 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Just now, ChiSox59 said: I don’t think anyone really is saying the sky is falling. It’s just a poor value move and further exhibits the Sox unwillingness to just spend money rather than using valuable assets to acquire underpaid players. It’s gross. This. No sane person can miss how good Lynn is. But the Sox best seasons are still 2 to 5 years down the road with this core. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Sox fans will NEVER change. 1. For all the reasons talked about ad nauseam already, the Sox were not going to be players for Springer or Bauer. Would it have been great? Sure, but so would have Harper, Cole, Machado, the list goes on. It's not how the Sox do business, never have. Deal with it or move on. 2. More importantly......The Sox don't need to make a splash. We've become so used to winning the offseason and being trash by July. The foundation is finally in place. The Sox are going to win the World Series with Giolito-Robert-Moncada-Eloy-Grandal-Timmy leading the way. This is the core. Right now they need to add depth to bring this thing to the finish line. Using a guy like Dane Dunning is how you do that. 3 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, fathom said: They got him for the postseason and to save the bullpen during the season. I don't like trading a solid prospect for an old few month rental, with a 4.8 Playoff ERA. And for the record, Kenny or Hahn have little to no say at this point, just like they had little to no say in the LaRussa debacle. They collect their checks and keep their mouth shut and smile on cue. Edited December 8, 2020 by South Side Hit Men 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourWhatHurts Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 If we need Lynn to pass the medicals then dont put him on a scale 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty22hotty Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 6 years of a solid #3+ for 1 year of a 34 year old that had a career year in 2019...🤢 this is a potential 15+ WAR lopsided trade. Throwing in Gallo is the only way its close to an even trade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Kill. Me. Now. La russa making calls. Lynn will be trash and Dunning a Cy winner now. When did you become Jack Parkman? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, fathom said: Why do people act like Sox just can’t to find a pitcher next offseason to replace Lynn? They will know more about virus/attendance issues and should have virtually no offensive holes to fill. You mean trade more prospect capital for? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, fathom said: Why do people act like Sox just can’t to find a pitcher next offseason to replace Lynn? They will know more about virus/attendance issues and should have virtually no offensive holes to fill. Because our owner is Jerry Reinsdorf? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourWhatHurts Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Giolito Dunning and Lopez for Eaton looks a ton better than swapping Dunning for 1 year of Lynn 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 minute ago, scotty22hotty said: 6 years of a solid #3+ for 1 year of a 34 year old that had a career year in 2019...🤢 this is a potential 15+ WAR lopsided trade. Throwing in Gallo is the only way its close to an even trade Yep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Tony said: Sox fans will NEVER change. 1. For all the reasons talked about ad nauseam already, the Sox were not going to be players for Springer or Bauer. Would it have been great? Sure, but so would have Harper, Cole, Machado, the list goes on. It's not how the Sox do business, never have. Deal with it or move on. 2. More importantly......The Sox don't need to make a splash. We've become so used to winning the offseason and being trash by July. The foundation is finally in place. The Sox are going to win the World Series with Giolito-Robert-Moncada-Eloy-Grandal-Timmy leading the way. This is the core. Right now they need to add depth to bring this thing to the finish line. Using a guy like Dane Dunning is how you do that. I’m happy they traded Dunning instead of Cease. I’d rather keep the higher ceiling guy. Like you mentioned, Dunning is not someone who was going to be a reason they succeed or fail. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoYoIsMyHero Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, fathom said: Why do people act like Sox just can’t to find a pitcher next offseason to replace Lynn? They will know more about virus/attendance issues and should have virtually no offensive holes to fill. People are out of their minds. It's a good trade for both sides - especially if Hahn gets an extension done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuagman Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Haha Dane dunning cy young now. Unbelievable. His ceiling is SP3. And that’s not hard to replace with the younger pitching arms we have coming up and/or free agency. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, fathom said: Why do people act like Sox just can’t to find a pitcher next offseason to replace Lynn? They will know more about virus/attendance issues and should have virtually no offensive holes to fill. Keep kicking that can down the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Tony said: Sox fans will NEVER change. 1. For all the reasons talked about ad nauseam already, the Sox were not going to be players for Springer or Bauer. Would it have been great? Sure, but so would have Harper, Cole, Machado, the list goes on. It's not how the Sox do business, never have. Deal with it or move on. 2. More importantly......The Sox don't need to make a splash. We've become so used to winning the offseason and being trash by July. The foundation is finally in place. The Sox are going to win the World Series with Giolito-Robert-Moncada-Eloy-Grandal-Timmy leading the way. This is the core. Right now they need to add depth to bring this thing to the finish line. Using a guy like Dane Dunning is how you do that. They SHOULD sign Bauer, that was the whole point of this rebuild. To go out and BUY the last pieces to stack on the cost controlled core. Sacrificing cost controlled assets for rentals is strictly counterintuitive to the entire concept. Keep Dunning, sign Bauer, dominate. Why is that hard? 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, EloyJenkins said: The beauty is an extension for 2 seasons should be very reasonable money wise as well. That is the silver lining to this. 5 years of dunning for 3 of Lynn eases the blow to all those whining. I agree. I don’t get all the complaining. We just acquired a number 2 starter for someone that we don’t know where he’s going to be a couple years from now. His value was already high as is. Edited December 8, 2020 by maloney.adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, fathom said: So for the record, this is a Tony deal and not a KW deal or a Hahn deal? So he's hijacking the FOs role too? Lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zisk Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, NCsoxfan said: Quintana was an extremely valuable commodity at the time and there were numerous suitors. This trade we maybe win the trade next year and lose substantially after that. If he were an ace I’d be ok, but “This is Lance Lynn ffs”. My brother moved to NC a while ago. Did you grow up in Aurora? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: You mean trade more prospect capital for? Sure, I don’t know why anyone expected different. As Tony said, the Bauer dream was never ever going to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: When did you become Jack Parkman? Shelby Miller wants his career back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goober Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Yikers 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 (edited) Edited December 8, 2020 by South Side Hit Men 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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