KrankinSox Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 35 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Nahhh Save the freaking out for if we get him. Right now it's just another in a long line of tweeting heads doing what they do. Maybe you're right but the fact that he posted a picture with Cruz makes me curious. We'll seeĀ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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soxfan49 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Maybe I'm not giving Vaughn enough credit but would signingĀ Cruz for 1 year really be "blocking" Vaughn? I wouldn't think he was going to be in the bigs this year anyway with only 1 year in single A prior to 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 minute ago, KrankinSox said: Maybe you're right but the fact that he posted a picture with Cruz makes me curious. We'll seeĀ Didn't really want to curb your enthusiasm. I'm just an even keel kind of guy. I love the enthusiasm which is why I want this thread to explode with new posts about it. It's not a trade so we wouldn't get the endless stream of who do we trade for him . But if I had to pick between the Burnes stuff and Cruz I'm more likely to believe Cruz is more attainable. I doubt either one happens. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisebri224 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 To me this becomes which is more attainable for both a short and long run. Ā You get a cheap SP ($5 mill ish) you take a run at Cruz and give up no collateral. Ā You trade for a cheap SP but possibly lose Vaughn but having pitching set up long term. Ā FYI, if we trade Vaughn for Burnes, Iād give up Lopez and another upside SP like Stiever or Thompson but Vaughn is nearly a top 10 mlb prospect. Burnes aināt Sale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 15 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: If you're willing to go Vaughn, Lopez/Cease and Heuer...you might have a deal. It all depends on how highly Milwaukee scouts value those two pitchers (as opposed to Kopech/Crochet.) Ā That said, would still prefer to go just Cruz and Richards and give the youngsters another year to define themselves.Ā Ā Don't need to make an "all in" move just yet...at least until the trade deadline. Of course, that means another $25 million or so in spending, so not counting on BOTH those guys.Ā But at least ONE would be nice. In what world are Lopez & Cease interchangeable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Hector is a real offseason character 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Ok so nothing is confirmed and everybody is speculating. Great wake me up when something hitsĀ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisebri224 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 18 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: If you're willing to go Vaughn, Lopez/Cease and Heuer...you might have a deal. It all depends on how highly Milwaukee scouts value those two pitchers (as opposed to Kopech/Crochet.) Ā That said, would still prefer to go just Cruz and Richards and give the youngsters another year to define themselves.Ā Ā Don't need to make an "all in" move just yet...at least until the trade deadline. Of course, that means another $25 million or so in spending, so not counting on BOTH those guys.Ā But at least ONE would be nice. Iām not moving Cease, Vaughn, and Heuer unless this discussion has become Luis Castillo......;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 50 minutes ago, poppysox said: I want to keep Madrigal if it comes down to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said: In what world are Lopez & Cease interchangeable? Obviously, Milwaukee would ask for Cease (first), assuming Kopech/Crochet were off the table. The question is whether or not they would settle for Lopez, especially with his salary about to start rising. Ā It's simply that there's is almost zero likelihood of trading Kopech or Crochet, so those two would be the most likely to go...and, all indications this offseason are that the Sox feel very confident about Cease being able to turn things around with a new pitching coach and approach. Ā Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 People are so desperate they would believe anything. Wake up itās the white Sox. We are done with big names .Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 minute ago, quickman said: People are so desperate they would believe anything. Wake up itās the white Sox. We are done with big names .Ā Nah we just want to have a little fun speculating we won't act like the White Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 minute ago, quickman said: People are so desperate they would believe anything. Wake up itās the white Sox. We are done with big names .Ā Heās a 41 year old DH on a team that has multiple candidates to fill it. Thatās an incredibly likely white Sox scenario. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 This is going to be funny when it's an official Vera signing announcement. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, quickman said: People are so desperate they would believe anything. Wake up itās the white Sox. We are done with big names .Ā Wait really?Ā So glad you informed us. I did not realize that people on the interwebs could be less than truthful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 minute ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said: This is going to be funny when it's an official Vera signing announcement. Oh I don't know it's clearly not what Hector's been hinting at with the Cruz photo he put in the last tweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Totally disagree this thread was dead and because people are bored it was resurrected like Jesus. Donāt see it . Nobody sees it. And all the people out there thinking baur is coming are fucking delusional. Whatās wrong with everyone . We have a team itās not perfect but we have great player coming up and almost ready. We can add in July. Pretty much done except for a fringe player. Stop the insanity .Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrankinSox Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Hector seems pretty adamant on this one. He's fighting with all naysayers on twitter right now and defending his record of breaking news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 11 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Obviously, Milwaukee would ask for Cease (first), assuming Kopech/Crochet were off the table. The question is whether or not they would settle for Lopez, especially with his salary about to start rising. Ā It's simply that there's is almost zero likelihood of trading Kopech or Crochet, so those two would be the most likely to go...and, all indications this offseason are that the Sox feel very confident about Cease being able to turn things around with a new pitching coach and approach. Ā Ā Yeah instead of Cease, Kopech or CrochetĀ the Brewers would settle for Lopez in exchange for Burnes š Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Wait really?Ā So glad you informed us. I did not realize that people on the interwebs could be less than truthful. Suppose the point I was trying to make unless people think the whole thread was a ruse is there is nothing to this .we can disagree and thatās fine. Hope I am wrong .Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, soxfan49 said: Yeah instead of Cease, Kopech or CrochetĀ the Brewers would settle for Lopez in exchange for Burnes š Vaughn is one of the top rated prospects in baseball, and he's a HUGE need for Milwaukee right now. Most importantly, he's going to be cheap for his first four years. And Heuer solidifies that bullpen if they trade Hader. Ā The fact of the matter is that Kopech and Crochet give you so many different possible outcomes in terms of innings pitched.Ā At the very least, Lopez seems to have a rubber arm and is a decent change of scenery candidate if there ever was one. Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 22, 2021 Author Share Posted January 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, KrankinSox said: Hector seems pretty adamant on this one. He's fighting with all naysayers on twitter right now and defending his record of breaking news. Heās also saying heās breaking this and not someone else. However he didnāt rule out the leverage play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Cruz or Odorizzi just make too much sense. Take away from the Twins, simultaneously add to the White Sox probability of winning the division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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