Rey21 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 If Giolito keeps getting better and potentially wins a Cy Young, after Bauer got what he got, there’s no way Giolito is here after 3 years right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 It ain't going to be 5/65 or 70. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cashman Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 If Jerry is still running this organization in 3yrs, Giolito will be traded. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 20 minutes ago, Cashman said: If Jerry is still running this organization in 3yrs, Giolito will be traded. So will every starter worth their salt that won't give us a major hometown discount. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, southsideirish71 said: So will every starter worth their salt that won't give us a major hometown discount. And why would anyone give the Sox a hometown discount? They wind up trading them anyway. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 They could offer him now 7/120. This would buy out the 3 arb years (maybe 35m or so combined) and then give them 4 more years which would make him a FA at age 32 and gives him another chance for a good payday. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cashman Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 45 minutes ago, southsideirish71 said: So will every starter worth their salt that won't give us a major hometown discount. They missed the boat on offering him a extension. I think the plan is, offering Lynn a 2yr extension, hoping Ceasing makes a jump this year(although he turned down an extension), and hoping Kopech makes a leap to lessen the trading of Giolito. I would guess, they offer Kopech an extension sometime between now and next offseason. This team is set up for a 3yr window with a lot of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 44 minutes ago, Cashman said: They missed the boat on offering him a extension. I think the plan is, offering Lynn a 2yr extension, hoping Ceasing makes a jump this year(although he turned down an extension), and hoping Kopech makes a leap to lessen the trading of Giolito. I would guess, they offer Kopech an extension sometime between now and next offseason. This team is set up for a 3yr window with a lot of things. Again, just because he hasn't signed one, doesn't mean they haven't offered an extension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sockin Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Cashman said: They missed the boat on offering him a extension. I think the plan is, offering Lynn a 2yr extension, hoping Ceasing makes a jump this year(although he turned down an extension), and hoping Kopech makes a leap to lessen the trading of Giolito. I would guess, they offer Kopech an extension sometime between now and next offseason. This team is set up for a 3yr window with a lot of things. Same problem with Lynn, there’s no way he’s signing an extension after seeing that money. Edited February 5, 2021 by Sockin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cashman Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 29 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Again, just because he hasn't signed one, doesn't mean they haven't offered an extension. I am pretty sure Cease was offered one, and declined. I am not going to play the possible vs probable game. There is a precedence with Jerry and signing pitchers. It is not going to happen with Giolito. It is going to be a Sale 2.0 kind of trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Dominikk85 said: They could offer him now 7/120. This would buy out the 3 arb years (maybe 35m or so combined) and then give them 4 more years which would make him a FA at age 32 and gives him another chance for a good payday. At best, you’re going to get 5 years (two extra years of control) because Reinsdorf doesn’t trust long-term deals for ANY pitchers. And they’re not going to be confident in any contention window extending beyond 2025. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 I’m not going to spend the next 3 years freaking out about losing Giolito. Between the new CBA, possibly a new owner and Giolito not exactly having a long track record of success, a lot fan chance over the next 36 months. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 What would you sign Gio for/ 4/100 with a team option for a 5th year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 12 minutes ago, fathom said: I’m not going to spend the next 3 years freaking out about losing Giolito. Between the new CBA, possibly a new owner and Giolito not exactly having a long track record of success, a lot fan chance over the next 36 months. Absolutely. I think we’re pretty much a top 3 destination this decade. Hahn has a lot of cost certainty with those brilliant extensions no other team is doing. Let’s let it play out. So far, A+ across the board 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smellysox Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 26 minutes ago, fathom said: I’m not going to spend the next 3 years freaking out about losing Giolito. Between the new CBA, possibly a new owner and Giolito not exactly having a long track record of success, a lot fan chance over the next 36 months. Yes. Well said. There are to many variables that can affect that right now or as they say "we have bigger fish to fry." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 hour ago, tray said: What would you sign Gio for/ 4/100 with a team option for a 5th year? You’ve done it. You have written a deal that is terrible for the White Sox. Do you realize how hard that is to do in a Giolito thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 A 4 year deal still is the only concept that makes sense for both sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Who cares if they want to keep him they will keep him . Pretty simple, I do think they intend to keep lynn he is older and won’t command anything like Giolito. Sox need to decide. Up to them but we have him for a couple more years and if we win then great. Job done . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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