caulfield12 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 1 minute ago, soxfan49 said: What the hell is with the "legitimate spot" comment? Damn this guy is a mess Meaning a RHP vs. LHB, lol...can’t wait for this platoon. Next act, we will all be jumping on Williams’ poor defense as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 LaRussa's obsession with starting bench players is going to drive us insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 2 hours ago, TheTruth05 said: 🤐 It must have taken La Russa 45 minutes to speak that quote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: It was about our not being sure that Vaughn was going to be THAT generational (Pujols-esque) hitter at first base good. Not Abreu. Otherwise, Vaughn extension isn’t the biggest issue in the world. No, you said top 5 first basemen who play shoddy defense aren't priority. So you're saying only Pujols-esque 1B's should be priority? That's odd, again, considering the Sox best player is a 1B who isn't close to as good as Pujols was in his prime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Just now, Kalapse said: LaRussa's obsession with starting bench players is going to drive us insane. And we thought Ozzie’s infamous Sunday lineups when positioned for a sweep were bad...but it definitely paid off for playoff caliber teams. Whether we are there or mot remains to be seen. But it’s still idiotic to draft a 1B who’s the best hitter in college baseball then sit him for a AAAA journeyman who’s not close to part of the future of this franchise. Just because a terrible pitcher who happens to be RH is on the mound. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Meaning a RHP vs. LHB, lol...can’t wait for this platoon. Next act, we will all be jumping on Williams’ poor defense as well. He didn't have enough innings to qualify, but in 2018 he was still the 2nd worst defensive outfielder in baseball (behind Bryce Harper, who they moved to CF a bunch that year) according to Fangraphs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 1 minute ago, South Side Hit Men said: It must have taken La Russa 45 minutes to speak that quote. If you firmly believe in Vaughn’s bat, and draft him where they did, Williams doesn’t play more than once every 2-3 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Meaning a RHP vs. LHB, lol...can’t wait for this platoon. Next act, we will all be jumping on Williams’ poor defense as well. Williams defense is poor in center, in LF he is about average (uzr for his career +0.6 in left and -11.9 in center) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Dominikk85 said: Williams defense is poor in center, in LF he is about average (uzr for his career +0.6 in left and -11.9 in center) Still, LaRussa is acting like 2015 Yordano Ventura is the opposing pitcher...I mean, c’mon. Also, unfortunate we just missed LHP Marco Gonzalez in Seattle...Minnesota is beating him up now, instead. Edited April 8, 2021 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, Kalapse said: LaRussa's obsession with starting bench players is going to drive us insane. Back in the 1980s, before La Russa was shit canned, he was booed at home regularly. Our entire section and much of the stadium booed him every time he stepped foot out of the dugout, up 10-1, still booed. He finished with a .506 winning percentage here. His “HOF Career” began once he had access to credible ownership, the top GMs in the game, and tens of thousands of steroids filled syringes and other PEDs. He still pissed away two of the three Oakland World Series. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, soxfan49 said: What the hell is with the "legitimate spot" comment? Damn this guy is a mess Is a LF with some power against a RH pitcher not a legitimate spot for 1 game with the Sox struggling against RH pitching and in his 1 start against the Rangers he gave up 5 hits and 2 walks against LHH in 8 PA 's ? Maybe you are the mess ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 (edited) In 290 career games Nick Williams is exactly replacement level. Not giving Vaughn an every day job to see if he'll sink or swim is ridiculous. Players the caliber of Nick Williams will always be available when you need them. Edited April 8, 2021 by maxjusttyped 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 14 minutes ago, Kalapse said: LaRussa's obsession with starting bench players is going to drive us insane. If this was always going to be the plan (it probably was) it makes it that much more inexcusable more depth wasn't added to this roster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 1 minute ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Is a LF with some power against a RH pitcher not a legitimate spot for 1 game with the Sox struggling against RH pitching and in his 1 start against the Rangers he gave up 5 hits and 2 walks against LHH in 8 PA 's ? Maybe you are the mess ? Yeah, I'm the mess because this drunken bastard 1) doesn't know they are off tomorrow and 2) they are playing their 7th best OF in a year they wanted to "win a championship" because their alleged stud who they drafted #3 overall has already been determined to stink against RHP's Get lost 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Just now, soxfan49 said: Yeah, I'm the mess because this drunken bastard 1) doesn't know they are off tomorrow and 2) they are playing their 7th best OF in a year they wanted to "win a championship" because their alleged stud who they drafted #3 overall has already been determined to stink against RHP's Get lost It's one game dude and Keller got killed against lefties in his 1st game. Your concern was about a legitimate spot and it is a legitimate spot for 1 game. Not my fault you can't admit it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Harold's Leg Lift Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 LaRussa hates white players!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 14 minutes ago, soxfan49 said: No, you said top 5 first basemen who play shoddy defense aren't priority. So you're saying only Pujols-esque 1B's should be priority? That's odd, again, considering the Sox best player is a 1B who isn't close to as good as Pujols was in his prime No, I said giving extensions to young 1B who don’t project to be top 3-5 (let’s try 2019 Pete Alonso instead) 1B in the majors offensively and are average to below average defenders shouldn’t be prioritized in early extensions. Now if he’s something like 8-12, then you’re going to have interesting arguments both ways. Mariners already getting criticized with their deal for 1B White, who might be 18-22ish if he’s lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 28 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said: Compare and contrast to Nick Madrigal. WTF indeed. Little did TLR know...he couldn't be trusted to field anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kalapse Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Nick Williams isn't even close to a good enough hitter for his handedness to matter when making out the lineup. When you can't hit the platoon advantage doesn't fucking matter. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: It's one game dude and Keller got killed against lefties in his 1st game. Your concern was about a legitimate spot and it is a legitimate spot for 1 game. Not my fault you can't admit it. Yeah, funny how the walking beer can hates shifting but is already playing matchups because of Brad Keller. Nick Williams is definitely a legitimate start today because even though he's complete garbage Keller had a rough 1st start vs LHH's. They're playing a horrific player today because of which side of the plate he stands on. Good call Edited April 8, 2021 by soxfan49 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Just now, Tnetennba said: Here we go again. If this game has to be delayed more than 2 hours, maybe call the thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 1 minute ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: It's one game dude and Keller got killed against lefties in his 1st game. Your concern was about a legitimate spot and it is a legitimate spot for 1 game. Not my fault you can't admit it. LaRussa also said he wants to get everyone in a game this week. After breaking camp with a few days off, it makes sense everyone gets into a game especially w it being a legit spot. Role players like Vaughn and Collins need to produce so it is hard to get them out of the lineup, regardless of who the opposing pitcher is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Just now, tray said: Here we go again. If this game has to be delayed more than 2 hours, maybe call the thing. It depends on what you know. When you know it’s clear sailing after 2 hours, then you play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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