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Luis Robert grade 3 strain/torn Hip Flexor, est. out 12-16 weeks


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1 hour ago, fathom said:

We’re going to win with speed, defense and pitching according to Stoney. Problem is they just lose their best speed and defense guy.  Can’t wait for even more bunting now.

Lol...god help us all.  The amount of playing time we are going to give to Leury & Hamilton is going to be appalling.  Hahn has to make a bold move and fast or things could get ugly.

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22 minutes ago, Sambuca said:

Does anyone have any potential more positive possibilities?

Is there a chance they are being ultra conservative and see a better prognosis after some time or with a second opinion?

Is it possible he could recover better and quicker than they are expecting?

Is it possible this will not affect him long term whatsoever? 


 

Wait a few days, that's when we get full details.

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13 minutes ago, South Side Fireworks Man said:

Did you mean to say you wouldn't bet your house he will return at 100%?  Just to clarify, are you saying you would bet he will return without losing much physical ability or are you saying it's likely he will return but with a significant loss of physical ability?

Yes, I'm saying Luis Robert will come back and be Luis Robert.

 

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10 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Lol...god help us all.  The amount of playing time we are going to give to Leury & Hamilton is going to be appalling.  Hahn has to make a bold move and fast or things could get ugly.

That's what I said but no one liked my trading Eloy while he was still injured idea lol. So I downgraded it to trying to get Tapia or Hilliard from the Rockies without using Eloy. Not bold but would cost less than Bryant (Cubs) or Peralta from Az.

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Unbelievable. 

I would be gutting the entire strength and conditioning department with the way this season has gone, health wise.

Also, this is why it's never good to be TOO ripped with muscle. It seems like you see a lot of muscle tears in guys that carry too much muscle mass. At some point, you start hindering your flexibility and durability. Speaking from a hockey perspective, here, but I feel like that applies to most sports.

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1 hour ago, Capn12 said:

Sadly, this REALLY kills my desire to watch the rest of the season. Really sucks to lose the 2 guys we lost, before the season really gets going.

One thing is for sure. If Grandal and Jose don't start really raking and Vaughn and Collins carry their weight, Sox lineup is gonna be anemic.

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31 minutes ago, tray said:

KC has to be pumped and the Indians have to be feeling like they can win the division. Bieber and Plesac are genuine top of rotation starters and their bullpen has been lights out.

 

 

Indeed, I told my Royals friends that they no longer have to fear the Sox. Today was a big step in the right direction for KC and Cleveland.

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1 hour ago, SonofaRoache said:

But remember the offense was inflated by Yermin and Eaton getting off to hot unexpected starts. We may lose a good bit of that production from them plus Robert who was one of the few hitting well right now. Our offense is still capable but we don't have much more time to waste. TLR has to come with the big boy lineups and the vets need to hit. 

Amen brother. Collins, Vaughn, Madrigal really need to produce at their highest levels at this stage of their development and like you said, the vets can't afford to struggle. Grandal and Jose baby, start raking.

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9 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Yes, I'm saying Luis Robert will come back and be Luis Robert.

 

There's just no way to know that...he's already set for life, financially.  It all depends on his inner drive/ambition to be a transcendent baseball player, and especially get back on the field as quickly as possible to help out his teammates.

That said, if the staff gets concerned about re-injuring by rushing him too quickly, they HAVE to shut down his entire season to save him from himself.

There's a fine line.  We can't afford more "double setbacks" like Burger or Engel more recently.

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36 minutes ago, tray said:

Len Kasper may be rethinking his career move to the South side about now.

LaRussa is another one that came here for the shot at the WS.

KC has to be pumped and the Indians have to be feeling like they can win the division. Bieber and Plesac are genuine top of rotation starters and their bullpen has been lights out.

 

 

Civale, too

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6 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

There's just no way to know that...he's already set for life, financially.  It all depends on his inner drive/ambition to be a transcendent baseball player, and especially get back on the field as quickly as possible to help out his teammates.

That said, if the staff gets concerned about re-injuring by rushing him too quickly, they HAVE to shut down his entire season to save him from himself.

There's a fine line.  We can't afford more "double setbacks" like Burger or Engel more recently.

This is why JR doesn't hand out big contracts to ballplayers. How many abs does Robert have in MLB? Injuries and Covid have limited his play. JR doesn't want to pay people to not play. 

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8 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

There's just no way to know that...he's already set for life, financially.  It all depends on his inner drive/ambition to be a transcendent baseball player, and especially get back on the field as quickly as possible to help out his teammates.

That said, if the staff gets concerned about re-injuring by rushing him too quickly, they HAVE to shut down his entire season to save him from himself.

There's a fine line.  We can't afford more "double setbacks" like Burger or Engel more recently.

It's not even those things. The prognosis could be much worse depending on what we hear in the next few days. It may turn out he has career altering surgery that will affect his speed for the duration of his career.

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10 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

There's just no way to know that...he's already set for life, financially.  It all depends on his inner drive/ambition to be a transcendent baseball player, and especially get back on the field as quickly as possible to help out his teammates.

That said, if the staff gets concerned about re-injuring by rushing him too quickly, they HAVE to shut down his entire season to save him from himself.

There's a fine line.  We can't afford more "double setbacks" like Burger or Engel more recently.

Yes, Luis Robert became an elite athlete and rising superstar because he didn't really want to work hard.

My goodness.

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Just now, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

It's not even those things. The prognosis could be much worse depending on what we hear in the next few days. It may turn out he has career altering surgery that will affect his speed for the duration of his career.

The guy is out 3-4 months, not 12-18 months. If he shattered a major leg bone or broke his hip, I could buy some of this. Hell, I'd be more concerned if he destroyed his wrist honestly. A muscle injury in his leg? Nope. Rehab and reconstruction, back as good as new. It's 2021. Guy will be patrolling the outfield with ferocity sooner than we know it.

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51 minutes ago, Sambuca said:

Does anyone have any potential more positive possibilities?

Is there a chance they are being ultra conservative and see a better prognosis after some time or with a second opinion?

Is it possible he could recover better and quicker than they are expecting?

Is it possible this will not affect him long term whatsoever? 


 

It is possible it will not affect him long term whatsoever.

That's all I got.

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Just logged in hoping to see he will be back by AllStar Break.  I just can't deal with this.  The rest of this team needs to put on their big boy major league pants and the bullpen needs to be shit loads better now.

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1 minute ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

The guy is out 3-4 months, not 12-18 months. If he shattered a major leg bone or broke his hip, I could buy some of this. Hell, I'd be more concerned if he destroyed his wrist honestly. A muscle injury in his leg? Nope. Rehab and reconstruction, back as good as new. It's 2021. Guy will be patrolling the outfield with ferocity sooner than we know it.

They can't reconstruct a muscle.  A bone,  a ligament cartilage, Yes. Muscles don't work that way. They are too dynamic with a high degree of vascularity.

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32 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Wait a few days, that's when we get full details.

They know already.  They are currently trying to decide if surgery is warranted to remove tissue that is too damaged to allow the rest of it to heal. That is the decision.

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2 hours ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

And i get you comparing recovery to a normal person because that's what research and info tells us, but it also tells us that athletes of this caliber with this rehab and training programs, and these body types, just have a way of healing faster and more efficiently than people like me and you.

And nothing is a slam dunk - especially with surgery involved - but for all the pessimism going on I think it's not warranted. He'll be Luis in 6 months. Sometimes these guys heal even quicker, but I'd rather they don't rush him back obviously.

No this is research on athletes.  This is where i go for information. Of course it's always possible.  I'm not a pessimist. I only go by experience and what the literature says. This injury never happens and they have no idea exactly what they are going to do. They are going to send him to a few specialists and it's going to be very difficult to decide what to do.

It's not going to be an easy recovery. He could be the Robert we know in 6 months. My guess is will hear something like the Jimenez report, we'll know more in 3 months.

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11 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

The guy is out 3-4 months, not 12-18 months. If he shattered a major leg bone or broke his hip, I could buy some of this. Hell, I'd be more concerned if he destroyed his wrist honestly. A muscle injury in his leg? Nope. Rehab and reconstruction, back as good as new. It's 2021. Guy will be patrolling the outfield with ferocity sooner than we know it.

Some sources are saying he’s out for the year. My impression is a broken bone would be far more favorable.

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1 hour ago, Balta1701 said:

Is it possible that this injury is telling us something else - the same reason Bonds tore apart his arm in 1999? 

Possible. However this was such a unique circumstance with that trip right before going into a reach for the bag that I wouldn't read too much into it. It's not like he did it just running normally .

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2 minutes ago, Vulture said:

Some sources are saying he’s out for the year. My impression is a broken bone would be far more favorable.

A fracture, anything short of a ankle dislocation, would have been preferable.  With a fracture it's a plate, a pin and 6-8 weeks, good as new.

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