SoxBlanco Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 On a close play at first base, is the runner out when the ball enters the glove or when the ball touches the back of the glove? I swear I have heard announcers say it just needs to enter the glove, but I can’t find an official rule on that through my various Google searches. Anybody have a link for that rule? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScootsMcGoots Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 I have no link but I'm pretty sure it's when the player has control of the baseball...which in my opinion would be when it hits the back of the glove. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted May 23, 2021 Author Share Posted May 23, 2021 1 minute ago, ScooterMcGee said: I have no link but I'm pretty sure it's when the player has control of the baseball...which in my opinion would be when it hits the back of the glove. That’s what I always thought and what makes the most sense, but that’s why what an announcer said (maybe Benetti?) is sticking out to me. I was surprised when I heard it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 It's as soon as it makes contact with the glove, provided that contact leads directly to being in control of the ball. So 99% of the time, that's hitting the back of the glove. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted May 24, 2021 Author Share Posted May 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Eminor3rd said: It's as soon as it makes contact with the glove, provided that contact leads directly to being in control of the ball. So 99% of the time, that's hitting the back of the glove. Do you have a link to that rule? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 I have heard announcers say that umpires will rely on the sound of it hitting the glove while they watch the bag so I would think that would mean the pop when it hits the back of the glove. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 They said tonight it’s when ball is in the interior of the glove Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted May 24, 2021 Author Share Posted May 24, 2021 32 minutes ago, fathom said: They said tonight it’s when ball is in the interior of the glove This is exactly what I’ve heard. So it doesn’t need to touch the back of the glove, right? Who said that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 1 minute ago, SoxBlanco said: This is exactly what I’ve heard. So it doesn’t need to touch the back of the glove, right? Who said that? ESPN crew. The funny thing is Astros fans swear Palmeiro was safe on the last out of 2005. Definitely looks out to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 Considering the large first baseman's gloves and so many close plays at first this is a good question. On "bang-bang" plays the ump sometimes listens for the sound of the ball hitting the glove while looking at the base to see when contact was made. If you couple that with the rule that clear video evidence is needed to overturn a call on the field it still leaves some wiggle room. Back in the day, "tie goes to the runner" was a gentlemanly way that these close plays got resolved. Now we need frame by frame analysis by off-site experts in NY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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