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Chicago White Sox Posted July 17, 2021 Author Share Posted July 17, 2021 I think this is smart as Zavala isn’t close to a major league hitter. Obviously you don’t overpay if you’re confident Grandal will be back, but can’t hurt to have a better backup option on the cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PitchatRisktoZisk Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 I've seen enough of Collins to know he is not a ML catcher. Every advanced metric and the eye test tell you that. If the Sox weren't trying to justify using their 1st round pick on him, he'd be buried in AAA. We can't survive with him catching 5 days a week. Hahn needs to stop hiding behind his "multiple championships" comments and get us a legit catcher now! There's no guarantee Grandal will be back this season, and if he is how effective he might be. Good organizations act decisively. The window is open. Go get us a legit catcher, a 2nd baseman, and 2 relievers. Otherwise our stay in the playoffs will be no longer than it was last season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Friday Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 Collins is bad. Get a catcher. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 Lucroy DFA'd by All. Inexpensive insurance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 17, 2021 Author Share Posted July 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Flash said: Lucroy DFA'd by All. Inexpensive insurance? Where are you seeing this? If the Braves DFAed him he’s a no-brainer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 17, 2021 Author Share Posted July 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Flash said: Lucroy DFA'd by All. Inexpensive insurance? 1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said: Where are you seeing this? If the Braves DFAed him he’s a no-brainer. Looks like you were right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 3 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: Looks like you were right. Hmm wonder if there was anything about the trade with Atlanta earlier for Neslony that had anything to do with LuCroy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 I wonder if St. Louis would do TRL a solid and give Molina a chance at another playoff run, Good for everyone involved I would think. Last year's catching was one of our biggest strengths...now we look desperate. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShandyMan Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 48 minutes ago, poppysox said: I wonder if St. Louis would do TRL a solid and give Molina a chance at another playoff run, Good for everyone involved I would think. Last year's catching was one of our biggest strengths...now we look desperate. Wow that would be amazing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 Go get Lucroy. Simple and effective solution to the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 How average can Lucroy be? Nobody wants him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: How average can Lucroy be? Nobody wants him. It would be for his defense and pitch calling, not for his bat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 My point being, there must be something wrong there. He actually has hit OK in his brief time, but this is at least the 3rd team that has got rid of him this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 Just now, Dick Allen said: My point being, there must be something wrong there. He actually has hit OK in his brief time, but this is at least the 3rd team that has got rid of him this year. That's a valid point. Nevertheless, I would think that he would be a defensive upgrade over Collins and Zavala. Is that appraisal too generous? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 28 minutes ago, Lillian said: It would be for his defense and pitch calling, not for his bat. 20 minutes ago, Lillian said: That's a valid point. Nevertheless, I would think that he would be a defensive upgrade over Collins and Zavala. Is that appraisal too generous? Most likely defensively over Collins, doubt it over Zavala. But again, he is being released for some reason, and if he provides a nicely called game and plus defense, you wonder why he can't stick somewhere. Something is up there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: Most likely defensively over Collins, doubt it over Zavala. But again, he is being released for some reason, and if he provides a nicely called game and plus defense, you wonder why he can't stick somewhere. Something is up there. The Braves are said to have released Lucroy, because they made a trade with the DBacks, to acquire catcher Stephen Vogt. He's not very good either, but apparently they prefer him to Lucroy. I have no idea what's going on with Lucroy, but if he could fill the hole, behind the plate, until Grandal returns, he could be useful. Noone answered my question, regarding how good of a defensive catcher Deivy Grullon is. Does anyone know? He has hit decently, since arriving at Charlotte. Edited July 17, 2021 by Lillian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Lillian said: The Braves are said to have released Lucroy, because they made a trade with the DBacks, to acquire catcher Stephen Vogt. He's not very good either, but apparently they prefer him to Lucroy. I have no idea what's going on with Lucroy, but if he could fill the hole, behind the plate, until Grandal returns, he could be useful. Noone answered my question, regarding how good of a defensive catcher Deivy Grullon is. Does anyone know? He has hit decently, since arriving at Charlotte. Grullon is ok, but was always known for his raw power more than anything else. He has a strong arm, but is fringe/average defensively. More likely a backup than anything else at the major league level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 I'd snag LuCroy and tell him he's starting 4 games a week, Sorry Zack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 also, trading for Molina makes too much sense, I see that as much more than a forum meme. wonder if Hahn has considered it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EloyJenkins Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 Lucroy will be a White Sox player by tomorrow. Has to be. I wonder if collins loses his starting role to him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, EloyJenkins said: Lucroy will be a White Sox player by tomorrow. Has to be. I wonder if collins loses his starting role to him? I would put money on it, Zack isn't a starting Catcher and the Sox know it LuCroy is at least decent defensively Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Lucroy had a 680 OPS in AAA this year and was released by 3 major league teams. This guy isn’t a friggen starter gmafb 4 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Didn't Lucroy also fe some type of way after he got released here? I doubt he would want to come back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 The Sox had high expectations for Lucroy early in Spring but he looked like sh1t so they released him. I doubt they pick him up now unless it is for minor league depth. If the Cards fall back in their division they might make Yadi available. He still has what it takes for play-off baseball. Man would that be awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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