Chisoxfn 1,560 Posted January 25 3 minutes ago, Tony said: Very good start Yep - excellent start. And Poles had to have so much leverage given the Minny situation that even if George wanted to do the same thing he did in the past - Poles had the ability to say NOPE and thankfully it seems (at first glance) George listened Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chisoxfn 1,560 Posted January 25 I actually think if Poles doesn't go with Flores that is a good thing; shows you he realizes you shouldn't just go with who you are familiar with - in some cases that might really be a detriment - because there might be too much biases from past LT relationship that it gets in the way of the right things to do to get the very best out of the front office and the coaching staff. Kind of like - I have best friends, but I wouldn't want them working for me or vice versa and if I did it would have to be a very very rare circumstance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmags 8,550 Posted January 25 Not surprised, it would have been very surprising given how he could choose between either job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chisoxfn 1,560 Posted January 25 Supposedly Poles will be the only person in the interview with the HC. If that doesn't say its his decision I don't know what is (if that report is correct). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmags 8,550 Posted January 25 Remember how the bears were smitten with Flores and were going to make him GM and trade Fields? Good times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chisoxfn 1,560 Posted January 25 Reports leaking Sean Payton has officially told Saints he is retiring. Power play to become next HC of the Bears (working with Poles)? Hahha. Okay - the 2nd part I made up but the 1st part is true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SoxAce 3,160 Posted January 25 Just now, Chisoxfn said: Reports leaking Sean Payton has officially told Saints he is retiring. WHOA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmags 8,550 Posted January 25 Honestly I've been Dan Quinn-pilled. Wouldn't have guessed. He definitely needs horses for his defense, but his ATL defenses were a reverse bears, where nearly all of their cap was in offense. When it had keanu neal and deion jones, it was fine, without they were awful. But with Cowboys, obviously were great. Not since dave wannstedt have we targeted a coach so universally in demand. Everyone wants Quinn. The takeaway for me - people want to work for that guy. I think his staff will be as good as rumored. Otherwise, I like don't mind Eberflus, Leftwich, Daboll. I really don't know what to make of Caldwell. I'm not sure a coach got more screwed over than him in DET, but I kinda felt that about Fox. But Kubiak went on to take that team to a superbowl, the lions were awful after he left. The players loved him. Everyone loves him. But the lions still felt like such a sloppy team. The most unlikely, greatest thing would be Ryan Day being disillusioned with the NLI stuff in college and the bears throwing $30 million at their coaching staff for a Quinn/Day combo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmags 8,550 Posted January 25 The Bears would still need to send draft capital to the Saints, as the bucs still did with Arians since he was under contract. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CentralChamps21 2,024 Posted January 25 1 minute ago, bmags said: The Bears would still need to send draft capital to the Saints, as the bucs still did with Arians since he was under contract. I don't know how much would be enough, but I'd at least look into it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harold's Leg Lift 2,215 Posted January 25 6 minutes ago, Chisoxfn said: Reports leaking Sean Payton has officially told Saints he is retiring. I was gonna say I'm out on the Bears but now I may be back in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmags 8,550 Posted January 25 7 minutes ago, CentralChamps21 said: I don't know how much would be enough, but I'd at least look into it. You definitely look into it, and considering his service to the Saints maybe they do him a solid. But I think he probably is looking for a break. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chisoxfn 1,560 Posted January 25 17 minutes ago, bmags said: The Bears would still need to send draft capital to the Saints, as the bucs still did with Arians since he was under contract. If it is an Arians like return - I have zero problem with it - but I presume Saints would want top picks. Arians was traded for like a 6th pick, but Bucs got a 7th rounder back. So it was pretty minimal cost (in grand scheme). I am fine with that. But if you are talking 1st/2nd rounder - I just don't know that you can do it if you are the Bears (although that might just be too short-sighted given how darn good he is). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmags 8,550 Posted January 25 Just now, Chisoxfn said: If it is an Arians like return - I have zero problem with it - but I presume Saints would want top picks. Arians was traded for like a 6th pick, but Bucs got a 7th rounder back. So it was pretty minimal cost (in grand scheme). I am fine with that. But if you are talking 1st/2nd rounder - I just don't know that you can do it if you are the Bears (although that might just be too short-sighted given how darn good he is). True, but Arians took an actual year off. If he would have retired and then signed with the bucs I'm pretty sure they'd have demanded more since that's just sidestepping a contract. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
southsider2k5 11,627 Posted January 25 1 hour ago, maloney.adam said: They? As in Minnesota, or as in the Bears might sign both? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmags 8,550 Posted January 25 17 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: They? As in Minnesota, or as in the Bears might sign both? MN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lostfan 393 Posted January 25 I kind of detached myself from the process for my own sanity but Poles was the name I liked the most. (not that I know shit. I'm just some guy. stop listening to me.) I am not gonna shill for the guy just because the Bears hired him but I'm also not gonna get bent out of shape just because he has a superficial resemblance to Ryan Pace's resume (as I've seen some others doing in the past week) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dick Allen 5,566 Posted January 25 Not to say Poles is a bad choice, I have no idea, and a lot of people who should know, seem to be impressed, but If Ryan Pace selected Mahomes instead of Mitch, how many of these KC execs and assistants would get interviews for big jobs? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Texsox 1,691 Posted January 25 55 minutes ago, Chisoxfn said: Supposedly Poles will be the only person in the interview with the HC. If that doesn't say its his decision I don't know what is (if that report is correct). I'm not certain if I want this to be his first and sole decision. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marqhead 325 Posted January 25 (edited) 1 minute ago, Texsox said: I'm not certain if I want this to be his first and sole decision. This is what he's being hired to do. If he can't be trusted with this decision, he shouldn't have the job. Edited January 25 by Marqhead 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kyyle23 4,489 Posted January 25 52 minutes ago, Chisoxfn said: If it is an Arians like return - I have zero problem with it - but I presume Saints would want top picks. Arians was traded for like a 6th pick, but Bucs got a 7th rounder back. So it was pretty minimal cost (in grand scheme). I am fine with that. But if you are talking 1st/2nd rounder - I just don't know that you can do it if you are the Bears (although that might just be too short-sighted given how darn good he is). Well to be honest Saints don't have a ton of leverage right? He retires and takes a year off, you get nothing. He tells you where he wants to go and you work it out as best you can? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dick Allen 5,566 Posted January 25 14 minutes ago, Texsox said: I'm not certain if I want this to be his first and sole decision. If he can't be trusted to get it right without George and Ted chiming in, they hired the wrong guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
