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1 minute ago, Colome's Hat said:

Finished in the top ten in Cy Young voting last year but ok.  I guess that doesn't count anymore

Kelly, don't you have to host Quick Pitch tonight?

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Just now, Colome's Hat said:

Finished in the top ten in Cy Young voting last year but ok.  I guess that doesn't count anymore

60 game schedule against Central division only teams. And he sucked ass when it counted in OIakland.

It was a bad signing from Go.

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1 minute ago, maxjusttyped said:

Once Gio or Lynn is back, they should turn Keuchel's spot into a bullpen game. Getting the 2 seed is important enough to not completely punt once every 5 games.

From everything they've said (and done), they have no desire to go all out to get the highest spot possible

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Just now, fathom said:

From everything they've said (and done), they have no desire to go all out to get the highest spot possible

I know they've done it (at least) twice, but I also think Tony is the last manager who'd regularly want to be doing bullpen games.

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2 minutes ago, Colome's Hat said:

Finished in the top ten in Cy Young voting last year but ok.  I guess that doesn't count anymore

DK's demise is not on Hahn.

DK has stopped believing in what he does and lost confidence. He should be no where near a playoff roster if he can't right it. I dont think he can at this point 

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1 minute ago, South Side Hit Men said:

60 game schedule against Central division only teams. And he sucked ass when it counted in OIakland.

It was a bad signing from Go.

Yeah....lets not forget WHO he had that 'Top 10 in Cy Young voting' season against. He racked up games against the terrible AL Central. Now, he can't even do that much.

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1 minute ago, Colome's Hat said:

Finished in the top ten in Cy Young voting last year but ok.  I guess that doesn't count anymore

He also has a Cy Young.....both mean nothing as to what he's looked like lately.  You cannot trust him to start in the playoffs this year.  I'm not sure you can trust him in the bullpen either.

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Nice catch mays!Don't ever fucking do it again. 

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2 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said:

60 game schedule against Central division only teams. And he sucked ass when it counted in OIakland.

It was a bad signing from Go.

Hind sight.....you are right 

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1 hour ago, fathom said:

Sox are allergic to hitting fly balls with runner on 3rd and less than 2 outs

Right on.  We are also allergic to hit and run, putting runners in play.  We have become the quintessential station to station team.  Not so good with a high ground ball rate. 

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Dallas decline have anything to do with the fact that he can’t use his Vagisil any longer?

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Keuchel gave up 3 or more runs once last year in 11 starts.  He's done it 15 times in 27 starts this year.

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Just now, shago said:

Dallas decline have anything to do with the fact that he can’t use his Vagisil any longer?

Interesting 

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1 minute ago, shago said:

Dallas decline have anything to do with the fact that he can’t use his Vagisil any longer?

I may be completely wrong, but in that Astros book that came out, didn't they mention him as someone that would talk to their new pitchers about what they could do to "improve"?  If I am wrong, I apologize.

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1 minute ago, 2Deep said:

Hind sight.....you are right 

No, hard pass for all other GMs in 2020, they passed in 2019 as well until July. 

Older players are typically poor signings for 3-4 year deals. 

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2 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said:

60 game schedule against Central division only teams. And he sucked ass when it counted in OIakland.

It was a bad signing from Go.

Cleveland and Minnesota were very good teams.  And he pitched well against them.  

I'm by no means defending him.  Dude shouldn't be on the postseason roster. But he was also integral in them reaching the playoffs last year and to deny that is just kind of revisionist history.

 

Both things can be true.  He can have a shitty season this year and also still have pitched really well last year.

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Just now, fathom said:

I may be completely wrong, but in that Astros book that came out, didn't they mention him as someone that would talk to their new pitchers about what they could do to "improve"?  If I am wrong, I apologize.

It's pretty obvious they were one of the first teams to find the good sticky stuff for their guys. I remember teams leaking complaints to the media about pitchers they traded away losing a ton of spin after leaving and now we know why. But I think they were (and still are) doing things with pitch data, coaching, and player development that puts them ahead of many organizations in the game right now.

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Is Hernandez pitching that well or did the Sox come out expecting to lose due to DK starting?  If the latter, it's time to give him the hook.  The leaders in the clubhouse can answer that question.

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1 minute ago, maxjusttyped said:

Sure would be nice to see Vaughn get going soon.

11 games without an extra base hit.  Maybe he's hit the "rookie wall"

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39 minutes ago, Sox80 said:

Here we go again.  Trash!

Forgive me for what may be a stupid question but why isn’t ReyLo starting this game or why hasn’t Keuchel being removed from the starting rotation??

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Just now, hankchifan said:

Forgive me for what may be a stupid question but why isn’t ReyLo starting this game or why hasn’t Keuchel being removed from the starting rotation??

Lynn and Giolito out make it near impossible

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Just now, fathom said:

11 games without an extra base hit.  Maybe he's hit the "rookie wall"

I'd keep running Vaughn out there every day, but in the playoffs (as things stand right now) I'd rather see Sheets in the lineup vs RHP than him.

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