Snopek Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 2 hours ago, BrianAnderson said: If he still can't get a hit with RISP and its now October? Then bring in a pinch hitter if it's necessary. 17 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: If he is still on the struggle bus in the playoffs, you mix and match with him as needed Except time isn’t exactly on your side in the postseason. I’m not sure we have the luxury of letting him fail in big spots in the playoffs. Don’t get me wrong, I still think he’s the best option all things considered. It’s not an ideal situation, but you just hope he can start putting things together before the calendar flips to October. If there’s no real signs of improvement by the final week of the regular season, I think you have to start limiting his role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry McNertney Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 It's clear that because of injuries, Vaughn was rushed into MLB. I believe that next year Vaughn should start the season at Birmingham or Charlotte. If he hits well down there, bring him back up and see if he's ready for MLB then. I think Vaughn still has a chance to be a slightly above average ML hitter some day, but he should be playing first base. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Jerry McNertney said: It's clear that because of injuries, Vaughn was rushed into MLB. I believe that next year Vaughn should start the season at Birmingham or Charlotte. If he hits well down there, bring him back up and see if he's ready for MLB then. I think Vaughn still has a chance to be a slightly above average ML hitter some day, but he should be playing first base. Are you serious with this? You would like to see Andrew start in Birmingham next year? This is lunacy. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colome's Hat Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 I wouldn't mind seeing Leury platoon with Andrew out there once TA gets healthy again but the fact is, you have to ride him and hope he gets out of this funk he's in. Luis did manage to get out of the slump for the very brief playoff series last year. Maybe Vaughn does the same. Although, once Engel does get back and if Sheets continues to put up quality at bats, I don't mind seeing Engel and Sheets starting over Vaughn. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Jerry McNertney said: It's clear that because of injuries, Vaughn was rushed into MLB. I believe that next year Vaughn should start the season at Birmingham or Charlotte. If he hits well down there, bring him back up and see if he's ready for MLB then. I think Vaughn still has a chance to be a slightly above average ML hitter some day, but he should be playing first base. lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Stinky Stanky said: It's not affecting him in the field. But he needs to sit some more. He's lost at bat. Our fanbase is obsessed with resting/sitting players as cures for struggles. I still say as much batting practice as they take, rest is overrated. I still think Vaughn and Sheets will be OK. I guess there's a chance they could turn into Yermin, but I'm not so sure rest is the answer. Yes it's annoying when he and Sheets both turn into instant outs, but I'd quit stressing over sitting guys. If Sox manager and hitting coach and scouts think he's still "ready" for the bigs and still has the tools, let him hit. I think it'll be interesting in the postseason when adrenaline takes control and some of these guys either fail miserably or rake the ball all over the field and over the fence. It's so easy to say a guy should sit after they have a pathetic game or four. p.s. has nothing to do with the thread, but once again we see why Jerry doesn't like to sign pitchers to lucrative deals. Kuechel appears done. He had fairly good stuff last night and still four runs and was hard hit from the fourth til sixth. Ugh. Even Dallas is only a 4-5 inning guy now. Edited September 9, 2021 by greg775 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RibbieRubarb Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said: Are you serious with this? You would like to see Andrew start in Birmingham next year? This is lunacy. You see in MLB The Show, in GM mode, I can do this and it doesn't effect my players because they aren't real. I won 135 games this year. This should also work in real baseball. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 Everyone needs to settle down with the extreme solutions. MLB caliber players go through really bad slumps sometimes - Paul Konerko had a .568 OPS first half in 2003 - and that was 4 years into his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatBallHitDeep_WAYBack Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 Would you rather have AV slumping NOW or September 27th? Stop over-reacting. He'll be back to mid-season form come October... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 19 hours ago, RibbieRubarb said: You see in MLB The Show, in GM mode, I can do this and it doesn't effect my players because they aren't real. I won 135 games this year. This should also work in real baseball. Tony La Russa once sent me to the bench in The Show - and I'm convinced he sent me to AAA - because I didn't draw a walk in two weeks. I was hitting .380 and led the team in homers and RBIs. It all comes back to Tony. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Greg Hibbard said: Everyone needs to settle down with the extreme solutions. MLB caliber players go through really bad slumps sometimes - Paul Konerko had a .568 OPS first half in 2003 - and that was 4 years into his career. He had also played through a broken foot down the stretch in 2002 and was still suffering pain from it. I would very much oppose Vaughn playing through a severe injury right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 You can also peak at his exit velocities and how it seems like the harder he hits the all lately, it is more likely to be an out. 9/9 102.3 out 9/8 96.5 out 9/8 100.3 out 9/7 99.3 out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 It might be getting too late in the season for AVaughn to make the adjustments necessary to hit the better RH pitchers consistently. I'm not suggesting Vaughn hasn't or can't hit RH pitching, but maybe there are better alternatives at this point like Sheets against RH pitching. The way the entire team is hitting lately, it may not matter how Vaughn is deployed. There are a few guys who are in hitting slumps right now and other than Abreu and Grandal to some extent, no one is getting the clutch hit we need to stay in some of these close games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 4 hours ago, ThatBallHitDeep_WAYBack said: Would you rather have AV slumping NOW or September 27th? Stop over-reacting. He'll be back to mid-season form come October... Didn't realize it was an either/or situation. Problem solved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 Let him play and figure it out. Maybe occasionally sit him against a good eighty pitcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatBallHitDeep_WAYBack Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Snopek said: Didn't realize it was an either/or situation. Problem solved. You're a numbskull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 On 9/9/2021 at 2:00 PM, RibbieRubarb said: You see in MLB The Show, in GM mode, I can do this and it doesn't effect my players because they aren't real. I won 135 games this year. This should also work in real baseball. Sounds like you should UP the difficulty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, ThatBallHitDeep_WAYBack said: You're a numbskull. I'm well aware of that, but what does that have to do with my response to your post? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankchifan Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 On 9/9/2021 at 10:10 AM, Kyyle23 said: IL really not that necessary. Just start Goodwin or Sheets and leave him on the bench for a little while Preferably Engel if he is available. We need to have better defense in the outfield. Goodwin has been exposed too many times as a horrible OF. He should be relegated to occasional DH and pinch hitter against righties, but please keep him out of the outfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zisk Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 1 hour ago, ThatBallHitDeep_WAYBack said: You're a numbskull. I haven't seen "numbskull" used in a long time. Doing it old school! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie’s Cuban Cigar Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 On 9/9/2021 at 12:14 PM, Jerry McNertney said: It's clear that because of injuries, Vaughn was rushed into MLB. I believe that next year Vaughn should start the season at Birmingham or Charlotte. If he hits well down there, bring him back up and see if he's ready for MLB then. I think Vaughn still has a chance to be a slightly above average ML hitter some day, but he should be playing first base. You are out of your mind. Vaughn is going to be a key factor on the Sox and will be an All Star soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black jack Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 On 9/9/2021 at 12:14 PM, Jerry McNertney said: It's clear that because of injuries, Vaughn was rushed into MLB. I believe that next year Vaughn should start the season at Birmingham or Charlotte. If he hits well down there, bring him back up and see if he's ready for MLB then. I think Vaughn still has a chance to be a slightly above average ML hitter some day, but he should be playing first base. Yeah! Get that year of control back! Not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 18 hours ago, ThatBallHitDeep_WAYBack said: You're a numbskull. 16 hours ago, zisk said: I haven't seen "numbskull" used in a long time. Doing it old school! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 On 9/9/2021 at 1:14 PM, Jerry McNertney said: It's clear that because of injuries, Vaughn was rushed into MLB. I believe that next year Vaughn should start the season at Birmingham or Charlotte. If he hits well down there, bring him back up and see if he's ready for MLB then. I think Vaughn still has a chance to be a slightly above average ML hitter some day, but he should be playing first base. Next year I would expect AV to be something of a monster with the bat. This year will work out great for his long-term development. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harkness99 Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 he is slumping hard - but its not surprising when you think of the number of games he is used to playing in his life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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