ron883 Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 (edited) What do you think? Edited September 29, 2021 by ron883 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 I think yes. He has been really good. Who knows, maybe something has clicked. And while it isn't a huge sample size for this year, it isn't miniscule anymore either. His BB/9 has been an astounding improvement. He is attacking, and trusting his stuff, which looks great. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colome's Hat Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 SUre. I mean Kopech will likely get the spot but I don't see any harm in letting Kopech at least compete with him for that spot. I don't see them getting rid of Keuchel either. Likely: GIo Lynn Cease Keuchel Kopech/ReyLo Could also see them using six starters next year (ala 2011) and ReyLo would definitely be a sixth starter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colome's Hat Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 Just now, turnin' two said: I think yes. He has been really good. Who knows, maybe something has clicked. And while it isn't a huge sample size for this year, it isn't miniscule anymore either. His BB/9 has been an astounding improvement. He is attacking, and trusting his stuff, which looks great. Even when he had that crappy start against the Angels, he still struck out 7. Was more just bad D and some bad luck but the stuff was good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 Consideration, sure. I hope to god they aren't depending on it. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
35thstreetswarm Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 Hell, if Rodon is toast he might be in consideration for the starting rotation in the playoffs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_Kuntz Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 Absolutely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 He's definitely earned a roster spot. Between Sox trying to control Kopech and Keuchel's innings next year for different reasons, I see no reason why ReyLo won't get 12-15 or so starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 20 minutes ago, turnin' two said: I think yes. He has been really good. Who knows, maybe something has clicked. And while it isn't a huge sample size for this year, it isn't miniscule anymore either. His BB/9 has been an astounding improvement. He is attacking, and trusting his stuff, which looks great. But he's not throwing more strikes. His zone percentage is actually below where it was in 2019 and he's not really generating more swings and misses. He's had a cupcake schedule in terms of his match-ups and been put in a perfect position to perform a little better. His BABIP against is 213 which is really what is driving his success for the most part; that and the walk rate decline, but it doesn't seem that his walk rate improvement is sustainable. He's getting quite a few more swings outside the zone, but I'm not sure how long that will really last, and he's getting fewer swings on pitches in the zone. Rolling into next year with Reylo as your 5th starter would be a bad idea IMO; I think he can be depth for the rotation but he shouldn't be counted on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 Yes. Because LaRussa is going to insist that Kopech is one of his high leverage relievers again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted September 29, 2021 Author Share Posted September 29, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, Balta1701 said: Yes. Because LaRussa is going to insist that Kopech is one of his high leverage relievers again. Ban bet on this? Edited September 29, 2021 by ron883 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colome's Hat Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 Did anyone read about the key to ReyLo's breakthrough? Apparently he had eye surgery. Apparently he had blurred vision or something and it was so bad he couldn't actually tell what signs the catchers were putting down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 8 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: But he's not throwing more strikes. His zone percentage is actually below where it was in 2019 and he's not really generating more swings and misses. He's had a cupcake schedule in terms of his match-ups and been put in a perfect position to perform a little better. His BABIP against is 213 which is really what is driving his success for the most part; that and the walk rate decline, but it doesn't seem that his walk rate improvement is sustainable. He's getting quite a few more swings outside the zone, but I'm not sure how long that will really last, and he's getting fewer swings on pitches in the zone. Rolling into next year with Reylo as your 5th starter would be a bad idea IMO; I think he can be depth for the rotation but he shouldn't be counted on. Shit I didn't know Ray would disagree with me. I'm just gonna go with what he says. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 Just now, turnin' two said: Shit I didn't know Ray would disagree with me. I'm just gonna go with what he says. Sorry for presenting statistics to the discussion. We'll just go off your surface level thoughts instead! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 Are they going to try Crochet at SP also? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Colome's Hat said: Did anyone read about the key to ReyLo's breakthrough? Apparently he had eye surgery. Apparently he had blurred vision or something and it was so bad he couldn't actually tell what signs the catchers were putting down. yet he had that surgery before the AAA season started and got lit up like a pinata. The key to his success has mostly been driven by facing bad teams, having a low BABIP, and getting more swings on pitches out of the zone; I won't say he's not more competitive around the zone which has helped with that, but I don't find that to be very sustainable. His slider velocity increase is really the only thing I see on his profile that is really compelling; likely tighter spin and more difficult to pick up. He likely still sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colome's Hat Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 Just now, knightni said: Are they going to try Crochet at SP also? 2023 I presume. It's essentially the Sale plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Sorry for presenting statistics to the discussion. We'll just go off your surface level thoughts instead! I get it, you're really smart. And I'm not. I don't want to feel like a dufus, so I'm just gonna stay with the basics that my brain can comprehend. He has pitched better. He has looked better. He has allowed fewer hits and fewer walks. He is striking out a decent amount of dudes. I'm not saying he should start opening day. I'm saying he deserves consideration. This was make or break year for him. He rose to the occasion. Tip of the cap to him. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 5 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: yet he had that surgery before the AAA season started and got lit up like a pinata. The key to his success has mostly been driven by facing bad teams, having a low BABIP, and getting more swings on pitches out of the zone; I won't say he's not more competitive around the zone which has helped with that, but I don't find that to be very sustainable. His slider velocity increase is really the only thing I see on his profile that is really compelling; likely tighter spin and more difficult to pick up. He likely still sucks. Boy, he has gotten more guys to swing at his pitches that aren't strikes????? What a bum! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asindc Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 12 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: But he's not throwing more strikes. His zone percentage is actually below where it was in 2019 and he's not really generating more swings and misses. He's had a cupcake schedule in terms of his match-ups and been put in a perfect position to perform a little better. His BABIP against is 213 which is really what is driving his success for the most part; that and the walk rate decline, but it doesn't seem that his walk rate improvement is sustainable. He's getting quite a few more swings outside the zone, but I'm not sure how long that will really last, and he's getting fewer swings on pitches in the zone. Rolling into next year with Reylo as your 5th starter would be a bad idea IMO; I think he can be depth for the rotation but he shouldn't be counted on. All of which means hitters are having a more difficulty recognizing his pitches, which of course is a sign that he has tweaked his release for the better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 12 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: But he's not throwing more strikes. His zone percentage is actually below where it was in 2019 and he's not really generating more swings and misses. He's had a cupcake schedule in terms of his match-ups and been put in a perfect position to perform a little better. His BABIP against is 213 which is really what is driving his success for the most part; that and the walk rate decline, but it doesn't seem that his walk rate improvement is sustainable. He's getting quite a few more swings outside the zone, but I'm not sure how long that will really last, and he's getting fewer swings on pitches in the zone. Rolling into next year with Reylo as your 5th starter would be a bad idea IMO; I think he can be depth for the rotation but he shouldn't be counted on. Good points, but I can't think of a season where we haven't needed an occasional sixth starter for any number of reasons. Cupcake schedule or not, having a 6th starter capable of giving us wins against MLB teams - even teams like Baltimore or Arizona - is an asset I definitely want to employ. I slot Reylo in the long relief/spot start role, Kopech in the bullpen, and if Keuchel continues to implode I'd rather go with trying to tweak Reylo's upside than Keuchel who can't miss any bats at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 8 minutes ago, Colome's Hat said: Did anyone read about the key to ReyLo's breakthrough? Apparently he had eye surgery. Apparently he had blurred vision or something and it was so bad he couldn't actually tell what signs the catchers were putting down. EWhen because he was horrid in AAA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 I am just hoping he has added some value for a trade. Seems like a sell high guy to me now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 7 minutes ago, knightni said: Are they going to try Crochet at SP also? No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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