Balta1701 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Apparently some very fine people shot the previous memorial marking his birthplace last year, so it was upgraded with some MLB money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxForce2 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Just looked at Keith Law's top MiLB 100 prospects for this year on The Athletic. Not a single Sox. Rankings like this may be arbitrary, but still, a sad.state of affairs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 The '19 draft is represented well in the top 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 29 minutes ago, FoxForce2 said: Just looked at Keith Law's top MiLB 100 prospects for this year on The Athletic. Not a single Sox. Rankings like this may be arbitrary, but still, a sad.state of affairs. This shouldn't be shocking. We won't have any top 100 prospects on any list. All of our big guys have graduated to the MLB the last 1-3 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 3 hours ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: This shouldn't be shocking. We won't have any top 100 prospects on any list. All of our big guys have graduated to the MLB the last 1-3 years. The bad news - from the owners' proposal, that would basically leave them ineligible for any of the draft pick rewards for bringing up a top prospect to start the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Braves infield in 2021 Freeman 159 games Albies 156 games Swanson 160 games Riley 160 games 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxForce2 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 4 hours ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: This shouldn't be shocking. We won't have any top 100 prospects on any list. All of our big guys have graduated to the MLB the last 1-3 years. I didn't say anything about being shocked. I just find this kind of metric to be disappointing and a sample of the drawbacks and weaknesses of the Sox organization in the big picture. The Big Picture meaning an outfit that is consistently in the hunt for playoff (and further) berths. In some highly competitive outfits Vaughn, Crochet and Sheets would still be prospects. That is to say minor leaguers that have a bright future - not guys that the team is dependent on to fill positions in the present. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 17 hours ago, FoxForce2 said: I didn't say anything about being shocked. I just find this kind of metric to be disappointing and a sample of the drawbacks and weaknesses of the Sox organization in the big picture. The Big Picture meaning an outfit that is consistently in the hunt for playoff (and further) berths. In some highly competitive outfits Vaughn, Crochet and Sheets would still be prospects. That is to say minor leaguers that have a bright future - not guys that the team is dependent on to fill positions in the present. I personally would rather see guys like Vaughn and Crochet competing in the big leagues where they belong as opposed to siting in the minor leagues due to prospect hugging. The whole point should be to put your best roster on the MLB field, not win top prospect lists. I have no issue with how the Sox have handled their younger guys, with the exception of giving up on Madrigal for an overpaid reliever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxForce2 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 (edited) No I'm not especially interested in prospect 'hugging. I'm in favor of developing prospects. If Vaughn is vulnerable to RHP, then find out in AAA and work the kinks out. Does Crochet have SP potential? A stint in the minors would have at least provided a direction to move him in. Playoff organizations, from The A's to the Dahjahs, maintain high end farm systems that continually move prospects up to the Majors - *when* they belong. That is the measure of an effective organization with practical, effective vision and goals. While any number of guys come into the system as 18 year year olds and get 2-4 years playing professional ball before going into the cauldron of MLB, the college guys who come into a system are often getting only 1-2 years of farm work, and in Vaughn's case, not even that. Is college ball really as solid a prep ground as some seem to think? The Sox caught lightning in a bottle with Sale and seemingly have been running around in an open field under a storm cloud with an empty beer bottle in each hand ever since. e.g. I can't help but wonder if the 'major league ready' Rodon wouldn't have avoided at least some of his ailments had he been brought up the ladder at a more reasonable rate. A different case would be Eloy, who was obviously through the roof at the plate but whatever 'development' occurred with him as an outfielder just as obviously didn't take and probably wouldn't have even with more time at Charlotte. But again, that is a unique case p.s TA did 3 years in MiLB from the age of 20-23 before joining the Sox, it worked pretty well for him Edited February 2, 2022 by FoxForce2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 Trevor Bauer walks might cost him a few mil down the road. Not sure what the Trolley team will do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 9, 2022 Author Share Posted February 9, 2022 Yolmer to BoSox on MiLB deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 9, 2022 Author Share Posted February 9, 2022 Also from a delusional Sox fan POV https://twitter.com/mlbtraderumors/status/1491519394626813960?s=20&t=Tmb_aYb9MWQfHS9dTaz9ew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Superstar Lamar Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 well, at least the lockout might solve the Sox innings limit issues with some of its starters and assure that Keuchel does not reach 160 IP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, Superstar Lamar said: well, at least the lockout might solve the Sox innings limit issues with some of its starters and assure that Keuchel does not reach 160 IP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 On 2/1/2022 at 11:17 AM, ChiSox59 said: I personally would rather see guys like Vaughn and Crochet competing in the big leagues where they belong as opposed to siting in the minor leagues due to prospect hugging. Unless they could use the minors to develop Crochet as a starter; this will be season #3 in the pen, which is about the time to shift him, if he's going to start. He's a good reliever, but that's not what round 1 is for, and lordy does this FO use a lot of resources on relievers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 9, 2022 Author Share Posted February 9, 2022 24 minutes ago, Superstar Lamar said: well, at least the lockout might solve the Sox innings limit issues with some of its starters and assure that Keuchel does not reach 160 IP Until they adjust contract bonuses to reflect the amount of games played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 32 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Until they adjust contract bonuses to reflect the amount of games played. And when they do that...every single 6 inning outing he completes becomes a higher %age of the innings limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 (edited) 42 minutes ago, GreenSox said: Unless they could use the minors to develop Crochet as a starter; this will be season #3 in the pen, which is about the time to shift him, if he's going to start. He's a good reliever, but that's not what round 1 is for, and lordy does this FO use a lot of resources on relievers. I think they'll use him like they used Kopech last year, but maybe a tad more aggressive since isn't coming off major surgery. Edited February 9, 2022 by ChiSox59 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 9, 2022 Author Share Posted February 9, 2022 Just now, Balta1701 said: And when they do that...every single 6 inning outing he completes becomes a higher %age of the innings limit. That was quite literally the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 (edited) https://twitter.com/BetweenTheNums/status/1491399074477907976?s=20&t=DT0_BB04YtyHPdGeFj7GYg for some reason this isnt embedding but i thought it was pretty interesting! Edited February 10, 2022 by reiks12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 13 hours ago, reiks12 said: https://twitter.com/BetweenTheNums/status/1491399074477907976?s=20&t=DT0_BB04YtyHPdGeFj7GYg for some reason this isnt embedding but i thought it was pretty interesting! That is a very cool graph. There should not be baseball in Florida. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sambuca Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 11 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: This is kind of intriguing, but I honestly have no idea what his value is. Very hard player to gauge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: Please don't trade with the Rays and that front office. Edited February 14, 2022 by SoxAce 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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