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9 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said:

 

Way less than I thought he’d get.  I bet they sign Cobb in the next few days.

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13 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Alex Wood was always the odd man out assuming they make a full court press on retaining Gausman...

Sounds Wood is basically nearing terms with the Giants…

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21 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Alex Wood was always the odd man out assuming they make a full court press on retaining Gausman...

This aged well.

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48 minutes ago, hi8is said:

That’s much higher than I expected for Tepera

I agree...2 for 12 seems about right IMO.

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So here’s the remaining starting pitchers on MLBTR’s top 50 free agents list:

  • 05) Kevin Gausman: 6/$138M | $23M AAV
  • 07) Robbie Ray: 5/$130M | $26M AAV
  • 09) Max Scherzer: 3/$120M | $40M AAV
  • 11) Marcus Stroman: 5/$110M | $22M AAV
  • 14) Eduardo Rodriguez: 5/$77M | $15.4M AAV
  • 18) Carlos Rodon: 1/$25M
  • 19) Jon Gray: 4/$56M | $14M AAV
  • 22) Anthony DeSclafani: 3/$36M | $12M AAV
  • 23) Justin Verlander: 2/$50M | $25M AAV
  • 26) Alex Wood: 2/$20M+ | $10M+ AAV
  • 27) Steven Matz: 3/$27M | $9M AAV
  • 33) Clayton Kershaw: 1/$20M
  • 34) Yusei Kikuchi: 2/$20M
  • 37) Noah Syndergaard: 1/$21M
  • 39) Alex Cobb: 2/$16M | $8M AAV
  • 40) Zack Greinke: 1/$15M
  • 46) Corey Kluber: 1/$12M
  • 48) Danny Duffy: 1/$10M
  • 50) Andrew Heaney: 1/$8.5M

If Matz signs soon, that would be 5 of MLBTR’s top 11 starters off the board and giant chunk of the B / C tier.

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Seems like Matz is best option

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4 minutes ago, bmags said:

Seems like Matz is best option

Not in on him supposedly 

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10 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

For us?

I mean, yeah. I for one think we actually have a good pitching coach - and Yeah while getting a guy who has been more wild isn’t great - Katz helped make our other wild pitchers effective.

And sinker, change, curve, slider is an interesting pitches I think Katz could work with.

With the exception of Scherzer and Stroman, two pitchers I have low confidence we’d land, will be difficult to pay for strong, known productivity. So reasonable upside you can escape from seems like next best play.

 

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10 minutes ago, bmags said:

With the exception of Scherzer and Stroman, two pitchers I have low confidence we’d land, will be difficult to pay for strong, known productivity. So reasonable upside you can escape from seems like next best play.

I think we’ll end up with our next rotation piece via trade once again this off-season.

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5 minutes ago, hi8is said:

I think we’ll end up with our next rotation piece via trade once again this off-season.

And I’m optimistic there. I love the As/Reds options

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I've thought the Giants made sense as a potential Rodon landing spot. But if they land Cobb or Matz then that can probably be ruled out.

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Matz would be nice fit for Angels - than they will go after Scherzer after. 

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10 hours ago, bmags said:

Fun update: settings have been changed to allow posters to see who reacted to their post and with what. A reminder that all reactions are a positive +1 on the reputation scoreboard. For now, the laugh emoji is still there, but if certain sensitive sammies try to start bar fights over it, it will be removed. Contrary to some notions, this was never enabled except to mods. But we are bringing you knowledge of how fire is made, may you use it for only good. 

I have a feeling that we are going to see much fewer reactions now. 
 

Is this change retroactive to all reactions given in the past?

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2 hours ago, bmags said:

And I’m optimistic there. I love the As/Reds options

Same. There’s easily 4 guys I would be happy with, then the next question is what happens with Keuchel.

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2 hours ago, Leonard Zelig said:

I have a feeling that we are going to see much fewer reactions now. 
 

Is this change retroactive to all reactions given in the past?

Probably so...but doesn't seem like the greatest idea in the world, unless the plan is to create more animosity between posters.

SoxTalk Hunger Games.  Or Squid Games, or something like that.

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It’s little images of a heart, I think you all will survive

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1 hour ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said:

Same. There’s easily 4 guys I would be happy with, then the next question is what happens with Keuchel.

Have fun browsing through your notifications for hours on end. 😆

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58 minutes ago, bmags said:

It’s little images of a heart, I think you all will survive

I’m just pissed off there’s still no “blowing kisses” icon I can use to blow up @greg775’s inbox with. 😢

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6 hours ago, Bob Sacamano said:

Why is he odd man out? I would think Cueto would be out of the guys they lost.

Sure, but they really liked Wood, just not as much as DeScalfini.  We will see if they circle back to Cueto after January if other options are off the table.  Obviously, Gausman has to be the next priority to address.

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7 hours ago, Leonard Zelig said:

I have a feeling that we are going to see much fewer reactions now. 
 

Is this change retroactive to all reactions given in the past?

Perhaps, but not sure how cowardly one must be to be concerned with someone reviewing their reaction, especially on an anonymous message board. 

People should be all for transparency, and should be able to stand by what they post and also their reactions.

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