MLB 2021-2 off season thread

[Squirmin' for Yermin 1,561]

1 minute ago, maloney.adam said:

 

I have wanted a Sonny Gray trade.  Sheets + another decent prospect is good for me 

[southsider2k5 11,635]

Well here's the to the second half of the off season.

 

[southsider2k5 11,635]

 

[poppysox 2,158]

3 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

I have wanted a Sonny Gray trade.  Sheets + another decent prospect is good for me 

I don't want to see Sheets play for someone else.  He could easily come back to haunt us.

[Squirmin' for Yermin 1,561]

1 minute ago, poppysox said:

I don't want to see Sheets play for someone else.  He could easily come back to haunt us.

He is the exact type of guy to "sell high" on. There isn't room for him on this roster 

Edited December 1, 2021 by Squirmin' for Yermin

[Balta1701 5,250]

3 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

He is the exact type of guy to "sell high" on. There isn't room for him on this roster 

The one thing this roster has room for is lefties. Frankly at this point you make the room for them.

[CWSpalehoseCWS 821]

I would be ok with Sonny Gray. Not sure what that deal would like like, he has a super reasonable deal so I’d expect there would be quite a few teams interested.

[Balta1701 5,250]

14 minutes ago, GREEDY said:

Love seeing club options on these deals.  I've always wondered why they don't push for them on short term deals.  If you are going to bet on a guy, and give him opportunity, make sure it pays off if you are correct.  

What more would it have cost the Sox to have a club option at about 6-8 million on Los for this season?  An extra million guaranteed?  Rodon got 1/3 last year.  It could have looked like this:

'21  @ 3

'22 @ 6 ( club option with 1 million dollar buyout)

'23 @ 9 (club option with 1 million dollar buyout)

 

It would have cost you…Carlos Rodon. His agent is not a guy willing to give up free agent years without a big return. He would not have given up 2 years of FA for $1 million more.

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[Squirmin' for Yermin 1,561]

6 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said:

 

Seems to be smoke with the Reds today. I bet they trade one today.

[maloney.adam 995]

15 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said:

 

Sox need to jump the market here and make an attractive offer if they really want Gray.

Edited December 1, 2021 by maloney.adam

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[SonofaRoache 2,123]

16 minutes ago, maloney.adam said:

Sox need to jump the market here and make an attractive offer if they really want Gray.

The Rangers are the new Padres. They are probably getting Gray. 

[ChiSox59 4,983]

45 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

I have wanted a Sonny Gray trade.  Sheets + another decent prospect is good for me 

Sheets headlining a deal for Sonny Gray would be a massive W.  

[ron883 4,631]

4 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:

Sheets headlining a deal for Sonny Gray would be a massive W.  

This. If he's the headliner, you do it 8 days a week. Sheets is a platoon lefty that didn't do anything special in the minors and quite frankly sucked at every defensive position he played, including 1st base. He's got a sweet swing and hit some timely bombs, but you sell high on him if you can. 

[SoxBlanco 1,224]

I think there's a decent chance we end up with either Gray, Castillo, Mahle, Bassitt, Montas, or Manaea.

I think there's an even better chance that we end up with either Conforto, Castellanos, or Bryant.

[Snopek 343]

7 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

 

I'm over here outspending all these teams on pizza alone. Kudos to me and my front office.

[ChiSox59 4,983]

4 minutes ago, ron883 said:

This. If he's the headliner, you do it 8 days a week. Sheets is a platoon lefty that didn't do anything special in the minors and quite frankly sucked at every defensive position he played, including 1st base. He's got a sweet swing and hit some timely bombs, but you sell high on him if you can. 

Yep.  I like Gavin and I think he has a role on this team.  We definitely need lefties. Its unfortunate he can't field a position.  I sincerely worry that Gavin's presence will hamper Vaughn's development.  Worse yet, I worry that Gavin's presense will result in the Sox trading a franchise cornerstone in Vaughn.  They can all co-exist - namely, Gavin being a bench player or AAA insurance.  But if you can turn 26 year old Gavin Sheets who was basically a non-prospect a year ago (Sox didn't even invite him to alt site) into Sonny Gray in the midst of your contention window, you do it all day long. 

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3 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:

Yep.  I like Gavin and I think he has a role on this team.  We definitely need lefties. Its unfortunate he can't field a position.  I sincerely worry that Gavin's presence will hamper Vaughn's development.  Worse yet, I worry that Gavin's presense will result in the Sox trading a franchise cornerstone in Vaughn.  They can all co-exist - namely, Gavin being a bench player or AAA insurance.  But if you can turn 26 year old Gavin Sheets who was basically a non-prospect a year ago (Sox didn't even invite him to alt site) into Sonny Gray in the midst of your contention window, you do it all day long. 

That all being said, the Reds aren't trading Gray, who is controlled for 2 years at ~$22M including a $12M club option for 2023, in a deal headlined by Gavin Sheets.  They're asking for Vaughn, or Crochet.  And I am not doing that trade. 

[chw42 4,436]

21 minutes ago, SonofaRoache said:

The Rangers are the new Padres. They are probably getting Gray. 

They already have 2 Calhouns. Now they're going for 2 Grays?

[maloney.adam 995]

Delete.

Edited December 1, 2021 by maloney.adam

[chw42 4,436]

5 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:

That all being said, the Reds aren't trading Gray, who is controlled for 2 years at ~$22M including a $12M club option for 2023, in a deal headlined by Gavin Sheets.  They're asking for Vaughn, or Crochet.  And I am not doing that trade. 

Sox are far more likely to get a guy like Manaea than Gray. Manaea only has one year of control left. 

[Squirmin' for Yermin 1,561]

8 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:

That all being said, the Reds aren't trading Gray, who is controlled for 2 years at ~$22M including a $12M club option for 2023, in a deal headlined by Gavin Sheets.  They're asking for Vaughn, or Crochet.  And I am not doing that trade. 

There's no way Gray will get a prospect the caliber of Vaughn/Crochet. But I agree they should be able to top Sheets elsewhere.

Edited December 1, 2021 by Squirmin' for Yermin

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31 minutes ago, maloney.adam said:

 

This board has gotta stop sharing these unofficial tweets. This is nonsense.

[ron883 4,631]

1 minute ago, KipWellsFan said:

This board has gotta stop sharing these unofficial tweets. This is nonsense.

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