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Minnie Minoso’s entire career will be considered for the first time in December 2021 within the BBHOF’s Golden Days Era HOF Committee

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Obviously he should have been in long, long ago and enjoyed it himself. He was second best AL player 1951-1961, after a late arrival to the American League for obvious reasons. It’ll be nice when they right a wrong, but completely bittersweet.

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I always thought his low home run total (185/195) has kept him out of the HOF.

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Please let this happen, Minnie should have been inducted many years ago.

Does Billy Pierce still have a chance with any of the various HOF committees?  Like Minnie, he also should be in the Hall.

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Just now, The Mighty Mite said:

Please let this happen, Minnie should have been inducted many years ago. I've been a fan of his ever since I sat behind him out in left field at old Comiskey with my fellow Cub Scouts at my first Sox game back on July 15, 1955.

Does Billy Pierce still have a chance with any of the various HOF committees?  Like Minnie, he also should be in the Hall.

 

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This type of crap really bugs me. Just like Dick Allen, he should be in the HOF already. Instead he'll get inducted after he is dead, like Jerry Krause. All the guys I named should clearly be HOFers before their death. 

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1 hour ago, WBWSF said:

I always thought his low home run total (185/195) has kept him out of the HOF.

He has always played in challenging home run parks. Comiskey Park was 352 down the lines (with 12 foot high walls), 375 to the alleys and 410 to CF. Cleveland Municipal Stadium was 395 to the alleys and 410 to CF.

Minnie still finished top 10 in slugging eight times, including second behind Williams in 1954 (and finished with the highest bWAR that season). Minoso was a 13 time All Star, Top 4 four times in MVP balloting, finished with a .299 / .387 / .461 career.

Certainly a better addition to the HOF than most of the Veterans Committee elected White Sox already in the HOF, who also did not have the biographical background and discriminatory burdens Minoso faced.

 

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44 minutes ago, ron883 said:

This type of crap really bugs me. Just like Dick Allen, he should be in the HOF already. Instead he'll get inducted after he is dead, like Jerry Krause. All the guys I named should clearly be HOFers before their death. 

All my White Sox homerism aside... well as much as it can be.... Minnie and Allen are the two biggest snubs in my opinion.  

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Someone said that Minoso had the second best AL stats from 1951 to 1961.

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Finally! Minoso is probably the best eligible player not in the hall. Hopefully he'll get in soon.

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Hope he gets in.  Prior to inclusion of his NY Cuban stats he was listed as a .298 lifetime hitter, now he is listed as .299.  In retrospect it is a shame he did the Veeck publicity stunts in 76 and 80.  Take away the 1 for 10 in those games and he would now be listed as a lifetime .300 hitter after inclusion of the NY Cuban numbers.  Not a big difference I know, but still kind of a big difference.

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Dick Allen and Billy Pierce also eligible. Dick Allen is a top 10 all time offensive 3B, and should have been in a long time ago while he was alive, same as Marvin Miller. Hopefully Jerry won't publicly or privately campaigning or working against Dick as he has in the past.

My grandfather really liked Billy Pierce. Had a great career, though falls short in terms of on-field numbers and accomplishments. Somehow Jerry thinks he is a more worthy candidate than Dick Allen.

Former White Sox Goose Goosage:

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“I’ve been around the game a long time, and he’s (Dick Allen) the greatest player I’ve ever seen play in my life.”

 

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It should be an easy decision. I only wish it happened sooner.

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Minnie should of got in when he was alive, sad it did not happen.

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Jose Contreras from the panel James covered 10 years ago:

“Not too many people know this, but I played in the majors until I was 42,” Contreras said through Russo. “Then I went to Mexico for three years and then I went to Taiwan. I played until I was 46. And I did that because Minnie always told me ‘Don’t quit. Don’t leave the field if you still feel you can play.’ I joke around with him, ‘Well, then I’m going to play until I’m 100 years old.’ Because honestly, I felt good. That’s one of the other things I try to tell the guys, what I learned from Minnie, ‘Don’t leave the game if you still feel you have more to do, that you have more to give.'”

 

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Plus Jay Jaffe's (JAWS creator)  articles on his top two selections for the Golden Era Committee.

Minnie Minoso

Dick Allen

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For the third offseason in a row, Allen was traded, this time to the White Sox for two players, including pitcher Tommy John. Playing for manager Chuck Tanner, a native of New Castle, Pennsylvania (not far from Wampum), and again letting the media know that he preferred to be called Dick instead of Richie (a request that was still routinely ignored), Allen settled in at first base and hit .308/.420/.603 with a 199 OPS+, 37 homers, 113 RBI, and 8.6 WAR. All of those numbers except his batting average led the league. The White Sox, who had not finished above .500 since 1967, went 87-67, finishing 5 1/2 games out, and Allen was the runaway winner in the AL MVP voting, receiving 21 of 24 first-place votes.

 

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Announcement will be Sunday, 5pm, MLB Network

Hoping for the best, expecting the worst.

Edited by flavum

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