mqr Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Idk why anyone's shocked there was disagreement within the union and is mad about it. That's all natural. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, flavum said: 4/15 vs TB unless they were home 4/12-4/14. My bad, if so Looks like 4/12 at home vs Mariners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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flavum Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Yes, the Sox are home 4/12-14 vs Seattle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Line Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Did they get rid of the dumb 7 inning double headers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: If the details we heard are still in there...theres a limit to how many times in a row a team can be in the lottery (1 for big market teams, 2 for smaller market teams) so teams get penalized if they try to lose for years. There was also supposed to be a reward of additional draft picks for teams that have a top 150 prospect and call them up on opening day rather than waiting until April 15. (note that this would not affect the White Sox since they have none). Ok. Those both help a little. At least there are some incentives. The lottery was top 6 picks, correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Just now, Green Line said: Did they get rid of the dumb 7 inning double headers? Yes and man on second in extras Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, ptatc said: I thought the lawsuits were for COVID related items? Or were there multiple lawsuits discussed? One was against 4 teams that had extremely low payrolls in 2018 or so. The other was for failing to bargain in good faith during the 2020 covid setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Just now, ptatc said: Ok. Those both help a little. At least there are some incentives. The lottery was top 6 picks, correct? That was the last report, whether any of these things are different in the final version I offer no guarantees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Line Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Just now, flavum said: Yes and man on second in extras Thank the baseball gods. I forgot about the man on second. Lets play ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Tnetennba said: All 162 will be played with a few scheduled 9 inning double headers. After being locked out, the stalling, the ploys, dirty tricks, numerous arbitrary deadlines, ect the players getting a full service time season with full pay might be their biggest win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Just now, Balta1701 said: One was against 4 teams that had extremely low payrolls in 2018 or so. The other was for failing to bargain in good faith during the 2020 covid setup. Thanks, I didn't hear the former just the latter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: After being locked out, the stalling, the ploys, dirty tricks, numerous arbitrary deadlines, ect the players getting a full service time season with full pay might be their biggest win. Well considering they are playing all 162, it's not much a win. It would be if they don't play 162. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tnetennba Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, ptatc said: Ok. Those both help a little. At least there are some incentives. The lottery was top 6 picks, correct? yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 12 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: If the details we heard are still in there...theres a limit to how many times in a row a team can be in the lottery (1 for big market teams, 2 for smaller market teams) so teams get penalized if they try to lose for years. There was also supposed to be a reward of additional draft picks for teams that have a top 150 prospect and call them up on opening day rather than waiting until April 15. (note that this would not affect the White Sox since they have none). just based off how baseball works, I don't think a lottery is all that much of a disincentive. There's not THAT much of a value difference between 1 and 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tnetennba Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said: 💯💯 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, mqr said: just based off how baseball works, I don't think a lottery is all that much of a disincentive. There's not THAT much of a value difference between 1 and 7 I believe that a team that has been in the lottery the maximum number of times actually drops down to drafting 10th once they don't qualify. But even if they didn't, yeah there's a big difference between 1 and 7, and if you remove the motivation to "lose more games to get a better pick" then that changes the calculus anyway. Imagine the 2019 Tigers or 2018 White Sox not being able to qualify for a pick better than #10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bmags Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 This is awesome. hilarious that the executive subcommittee voted 8-0 against lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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