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Where could Kimbrel be traded, and for what?

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Kimbrel=Alex Rios in the all-time pantheon of interesting contract maneuvers...obviously, much less of a commitment financially but pretty much universally-disliked for their time with the Sox

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6 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I pray this is sarcasm

It's not. It never is.

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4 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

*Awaits mass panic that we’re keeping him and moving Hendriks to a setup role*

Bah it only takes a couple implosions before that strategy would be given up.

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19 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

 

It surprised me last year that we never tried splitting the closing a little bit more, but then I remembered who our manager is.

 

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7 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

It surprised me last year that we never tried splitting the closing a little bit more, but then I remembered who our manager is.

 

I think Kimbrel’s problems went beyond just how he was used, but we should have given him more closer opportunities to find out at a bare minimum.

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1 hour ago, caulfield12 said:

Kimbrel=Alex Rios in the all-time pantheon of interesting contract maneuvers...obviously, much less of a commitment financially but pretty much universally-disliked for their time with the Sox

So the return for Kimbrel will be a super utility guy who is both loved and hated on this board.

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1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I think Kimbrel’s problems went beyond just how he was used, but we should have given him more closer opportunities to find out at a bare minimum.

The problem is now we still don't know.  It kept failing,  and we kept doing the same thing over and over again.

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Just now, southsider2k5 said:

The problem is now we still don't know.  It kept failing,  and we kept doing the same thing over and over again.

Fully agree…there was absolutely no downside in trying when we had a double digit lead.

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3 minutes ago, wegner said:

So the return for Kimbrel will be a super utility guy who is both loved and hated on this board.

In like 6-7 years time

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The Phillies are in an interesting spot for a Kimbrel trade. Rhys Hoskins is awful at 1B and their recent 1st round pick Alex Bohm can’t play 3B. Phillies also have a bad bullpen and no definite closer….Hoskins for Kimbrel? Puts a big LH bat in the middle of our order. DH only though. 
 

Of course if universal DH is adopted is could easy make the Phillies a lot less interested. 

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1 minute ago, TheFutureIsNear said:

The Phillies are in an interesting spot for a Kimbrel trade. Rhys Hoskins is awful at 1B and their recent 1st round pick Alex Bohm can’t play 3B. Phillies also have a bad bullpen and no definite closer….Hoskins for Kimbrel? Puts a big LH bat in the middle of our order. DH only though. 
 

Of course if universal DH is adopted is could easy make the Phillies a lot less interested. 

He’s a righty hitter

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24 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

The extra line in this tweet seems important. 

 

Spending 30m of your payroll on 2 relievers. Hahn is a genius. 

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49 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

The extra line in this tweet seems important. 

 

Hahn trying to say Kimbrel was only bad because he wasn't in a closer role is just Hahn trying to maximize Kimbrel's trade value. He's trying to convince other GMs that if they trade for Kimbrel and put him back in the 9th inning role, they'll be getting the lockdown version of Kimbrel.

Maybe he's right. And maybe this is the smart way to approach it. But it's pretty obvious what he's doing.

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6 minutes ago, Middle Buffalo said:

He’s young. He can learn to hit lefty.

That's the kind of can do attitude this organization needs.

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15 minutes ago, KrankinSox said:

Hahn trying to say Kimbrel was only bad because he wasn't in a closer role is just Hahn trying to maximize Kimbrel's trade value. He's trying to convince other GMs that if they trade for Kimbrel and put him back in the 9th inning role, they'll be getting the lockdown version of Kimbrel.

Maybe he's right. And maybe this is the smart way to approach it. But it's pretty obvious what he's doing.

Well I can tell you it’s what other teams and scouts also believe 

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6 minutes ago, fathom said:

Well I can tell you it’s what other teams and scouts also believe 

Good. If there are multiple teams that believe they are trading for Kimbrel in HOF form, then that increases the Sox return. Hope we can salvage something useful from all of this.

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23 minutes ago, KrankinSox said:

Hahn trying to say Kimbrel was only bad because he wasn't in a closer role is just Hahn trying to maximize Kimbrel's trade value. He's trying to convince other GMs that if they trade for Kimbrel and put him back in the 9th inning role, they'll be getting the lockdown version of Kimbrel.

Maybe he's right. And maybe this is the smart way to approach it. But it's pretty obvious what he's doing.

I totally agree. What is Rick going to say when asked about Kimbrel? 

"We picked up his option only to trade him. He was TERRIBLE for us but we are really hopeful someone will take him off our hands, otherwise it really screws up our off-season plans." 

This is all Rick just trying to pretend the Sox might actually keep him, but there is just no way that's the plan. Rick could have 100% overplayed his hand and there aren't any takers for him, but I believe with almost certainty Rick feels like he can trade him without much problem. 

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"He's been terrible in convos, and usually doesn't even return calls for 2-3 days."

Rick Hahn quotes that will never occur.

Obviously, he wants to get back to his closer's role with another contending team.

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Convos?  What's next....Kimbrel has been outstanding in simulated discussions...we hope to have him up to nice long chit chats before Spring Training.

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1 hour ago, wegner said:

Convos

Hello 140 character limit language.

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12 hours ago, turnin' two said:

We know he would be great at taking the dog for a walk.  If you need to clean anything out, he can load up the bags.  He can't make pancakes though.  He loses control and hits the batter too often.

 

Alright, that's all I got.  I'll show myself out. 

I can give you Tuesdays at midnight in my garage.  No pay, work for tips.  Warning: raccoons are aggressive around here at night.  Nah, seriously, you're funny.

5 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:

It surprised me last year that we never tried splitting the closing a little bit more, but then I remembered who our manager is.

 

Me too, but saying this now could be a ruse, as others have posted.

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