maxjusttyped Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 4 hours ago, almagest said: No way on Gurriel for Vaughn, but maybe Kimbrel + Burger? Gurriel adds some depth to RF, but I don't think it's clear he's an upgrade over what the Sox have now so giving up 2 players of consequence for him doesn't make much sense to me. Gurriel is a 2 war/150 games guy in his career. I think that's a reasonable expectation for what you'd get from a Vaughn/Sheets/Engel trio in RF. Obliviously that isn't good enough, I think everyone on here agrees the Sox need to be aggressive in making a consequential addition in RF, but Gurriel isn't that. If they want to add an averageish player, why not just sign a guy like Joc who fits the roster better and only costs a modest contract in free agency? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 25 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said: Gurriel adds some depth to RF, but I don't think it's clear he's an upgrade over what the Sox have now so giving up 2 players of consequence for him doesn't make much sense to me. Gurriel is a 2 war/150 games guy in his career. I think that's a reasonable expectation for what you'd get from a Vaughn/Sheets/Engel trio in RF. Obliviously that isn't good enough, I think everyone on here agrees the Sox need to be aggressive in making a consequential addition in RF, but Gurriel isn't that. If they want to add an averageish player, why not just sign a guy like Joc who fits the roster better and only costs a modest contract in free agency? I still prefer using Vaughn/Sheets/Engel in RF with Vaughn & Sheets getting some time at DH and PH. Use what money we have at 2nd base, backup catcher, and pitching. We want to use the DH for Grandal's, Eloy's, and Abreu's off days from their regular duties. We have an overstock of DH types and need to use Vaughn and Sheets in a creative way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 9 hours ago, Pal said: Way, way too early in the offseason but had a few cocktails...my betting right now would be Conforto and Segura in RF and 2nd and Vaughn has played his last game for us. Hopefully a stud Starter is had for Vaughn. Maybe out of Miami. Again, very early. I would HATE Pablo Lopez for Vaughn. An interesting idea (idk how much i'd really think about it), would be a Luzardo + someone useful. However, looking, I don't see anyone on that roster that I'd want loll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: I would HATE Pablo Lopez for Vaughn. An interesting idea (idk how much i'd really think about it), would be a Luzardo + someone useful. However, looking, I don't see anyone on that roster that I'd want loll Lopez is way better than Luzardo. My bigger concern is if he’s healthy or not given how he ended last year. Edited November 23, 2021 by fathom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Just now, fathom said: Lopez is way better than Luzardo I know that. But I would hate a straight up for him. If we could get two players it could be interesting but I don't even see a second player I'd want. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 23, 2021 Author Share Posted November 23, 2021 Completely baseIess speculation, but I feel like something pops for us today. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Completely baseIess speculation, but I feel like something pops for us today. 👀👀👀👀👀👀👀 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 23, 2021 Author Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 minute ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: 👀👀👀👀👀👀👀 Pure speculation, it just feels like there has been absolutely nothing on the Sox as of late and we all know the Sox work best in the shadows. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 11 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Completely baseIess speculation, but I feel like something pops for us today. I hope so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Yes or No. Do you think we make a signing (greater than 50 million) before the 12/1 deadline. @Y2Jimmy0 @Harold's Leg Lift @Pal @wsd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 8 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: Yes or No. Do you think we make a signing (greater than 50 million) before the 12/1 deadline. @Y2Jimmy0 @Harold's Leg Lift @Pal @wsd I have no idea. Probably depends on Scott Boras. Trading Andrew Vaughn will be a mistake though and they shouldn't do it. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 (edited) Just now, Y2Jimmy0 said: I have no idea. Probably depends on Scott Boras. Trading Andrew Vaughn will be a mistake though and they shouldn't do it. agreed. Are you also hearing he may be on the block Edited November 23, 2021 by Squirmin' for Yermin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: agreed. Are you also hearing he may be on the block I haven't heard that. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I haven't heard that. weeeee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Reports out today that Baltimore is listening on John Means. Vaughn as a center piece makes a lot of sense. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunt Ritual Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 I dunno, if this org wants to trade Vaughn, I'd hope they'd aim higher than mid rotation starter 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pal Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 29 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: Yes or No. Do you think we make a signing (greater than 50 million) before the 12/1 deadline. @Y2Jimmy0 @Harold's Leg Lift @Pal @wsd If Conforto is on the team in 2022, I think it's very likely he signs before the deadline. Just my hunch. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Pal said: If Conforto is on the team in 2022, I think it's very likely he signs before the deadline. Just my hunch. Thanks. I would like us to make one big move before the lockout to ensure we at least get one big fish out of the way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 32 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: Yes or No. Do you think we make a signing (greater than 50 million) before the 12/1 deadline. @Y2Jimmy0 @Harold's Leg Lift @Pal @wsd Yes! Our needs (RF, 2nd, SP) will most likely fall in that pay range and players have the motivation to get er done IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 12 hours ago, Pal said: Lordes Gurriel could be had for at least a season now. Toronto would jump all over him for Vaughn. I think I just threw up. Why is everyone in a hurry to trade Vaughn? Please baby Jesus, tell me this isn't the plan. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 30 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: Yes or No. Do you think we make a signing (greater than 50 million) before the 12/1 deadline. @Y2Jimmy0 @Harold's Leg Lift @Pal @wsd I think they'll make a couple moves before Dec 1 but I'm not sure it's going to be for a big money guy. This is me connecting some dots on things I've heard but it seems (seems) like teams want to sign players before Dec 1 but the players want to wait it out and see what the new CBA looks like. I would be a little surprised if they signed a big money guy before Dec 1 but I probably shouldn't be beacuse this is such a crazy off season. I guess that's a long winded way to say who F'ing knows. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 18 minutes ago, fathom said: Reports out today that Baltimore is listening on John Means. Vaughn as a center piece makes a lot of sense. I’m not sure about Means but have always loved what I see in his starts. This his next step will be limiting homers and once that happens he’d be looking at elite stuff. Great guy to dream on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: I think they'll make a couple moves before Dec 1 but I'm not sure it's going to be for a big money guy. This is me connecting some dots on things I've heard but it seems (seems) like teams want to sign players before Dec 1 but the players want to wait it out and see what the new CBA looks like. I would be a little surprised if they signed a big money guy before Dec 1 but I probably shouldn't be beacuse this is such a crazy off season. I guess that's a long winded way to say who F'ing knows. So you’re saying they will sign Max for 49 million in the next week!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 (edited) Just now, hi8is said: I’m not sure about Means but have always loved what I see in his starts. This his next step will be limiting homers and once that happens he’d be looking at elite stuff. Great guy to dream on. He’d also benefit from pitching against lesser competition Edited November 23, 2021 by fathom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Just now, fathom said: He’d also benefit from pitching against lesser competition Truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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