bmags 9,238 Posted November 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Hmm. The Dodgers acquired and gave Mookie Betts 365 million dollars. I'm glad your happy with the Sox history in FA. All payrolls should get bigger and bigger by year. That's how salaries work in every other sport. The league has seen huge growth since 2008 (2000 really). If you just took the 2008 payroll the Sox had, scale it directly to league growth since 2008, the Sox would have a payroll of 215 million dollars today. But yes, please go off in celebrating the Sox never investing big money in incredibly talented players. The dodgers traded and gave an extension to a player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmags 9,238 Posted November 28, 2021 Just now, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Sox are going to run Jean Segura out there; a guy who is 32 years old; a guy who very easily could fall off a cliff at his age and given his skill set. They'll pay him 14 million too just to shed Kimbrel's salary. But that’s rad, right? That should help us fit the chart! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Look at Ray Ray Run 7,329 Posted November 28, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, bmags said: And that’s free agency? Thats not free agency lol this is truly an amazing post. yes, he was a homegrown talent that they kept. They gave him the DEAL he was asking for in FA - same deal he asked the Red Sox for - so he signed before becoming a FA. If the Sox ever want to do that, I'll be thrilled. Edited November 28, 2021 by Look at Ray Ray Run Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sarava 539 Posted November 28, 2021 Just now, bmags said: And that’s free agency? Thats not free agency They acquired him on the cusp of free agency since his original team couldn't sign him, then gave him the big deal. it's pretty much the same thing. He was a shiny toy from another team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SoCalChiSox 726 Posted November 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said: Absolute insanity…I’m 100% ok with overpaying a free agent, but for a team like the Rangers who are a couple years out this seems like a huge mistake. Ofcourse this is an absurd deal. Cishek claims the Sox wouldn't guarantee a 7th year. I'd be royally pissed if they truly offered him a 6 yr deal (or any deal at all....its like they don't know or care what our needs are). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Look at Ray Ray Run 7,329 Posted November 28, 2021 Just now, bmags said: But that’s rad, right? That should help us fit the chart! when i grow up I hope I can be just like you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sarava 539 Posted November 28, 2021 Well \I'm disappointed, but I'm not jumping off the ledge just yet. I just hope this winter brings better things than Segura or Conforto. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baron 1,152 Posted November 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sarava said: Well \I'm disappointed, but I'm not jumping off the ledge just yet. I just hope this winter brings better things than Segura or Conforto. Don’t worry. Ray is going to throw us all off and jump too for our sake. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreenSox 547 Posted November 28, 2021 54 minutes ago, fathom said: Story He'd fit well with the Sox Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capn12 1,575 Posted November 28, 2021 7 years......woof. I wouldn't want any part of that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SoCalChiSox 726 Posted November 28, 2021 1 minute ago, GreenSox said: He'd fit well with the Sox Lol....no Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sarava 539 Posted November 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: Ofcourse this is an absurd deal. Cishek claims the Sox wouldn't guarantee a 7th year. I'd be royally pissed if they truly offered him a 6 yr deal (or any deal at all....its like they don't know or care what our needs are). What are our needs? Semien fills our needs more than any player available this winter - possibly other than Max Scherzer. Semien hit 45 HR's - 35 of them against righthanded pitchers. The big things the Sox need are power against right handed pitchers and a TOR starter. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maloney.adam 1,070 Posted November 28, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Sarava said: What are our needs? Semien fills our needs more than any player available this winter - possibly other than Max Scherzer. Semien hit 45 HR's - 35 of them against righthanded pitchers. The big things the Sox need are power against right handed pitchers and a TOR starter. I would go after Conforto and Schwarber hard now. Trade Kimbrel for Segura/prospects and trade for a TOR starter. Edited November 28, 2021 by maloney.adam Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sarava 539 Posted November 28, 2021 Just now, maloney.adam said: I would go after Conforto hard now and Schwarber. Than just trade for a TOR starter. Conforto and Schwarber? Where are you going to play Schwarber if you have Conforto in RF? Isn't DH kind of clogged up with Vaughn, Grandal, Sheets and Abreu all needing time there from time to time? And I would love Schwarber's bat in our lineup. Those Schwarbombs would fit in nicely between Eloy and Robert in the lineup. I just don't see a position for him here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hi8is 3,015 Posted November 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, maloney.adam said: I would go after Conforto and Schwarber hard now. Trade Kimbrel for Segura/prospects and trade for a TOR starter. Always has been the most likely best case for us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hi8is 3,015 Posted November 28, 2021 Just now, Sarava said: Conforto and Schwarber? Where are you going to play Schwarber if you have Conforto in RF? Isn't DH kind of clogged up with Vaughn, Grandal, Sheets and Abreu all needing time there from time to time? And I would love Schwarber's bat in our lineup. Those Schwarbombs would fit in nicely between Eloy and Robert in the lineup. I just don't see a position for him here. Think outside the box. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maloney.adam 1,070 Posted November 28, 2021 Just now, Sarava said: Conforto and Schwarber? Where are you going to play Schwarber if you have Conforto in RF? Isn't DH kind of clogged up with Vaughn, Grandal, Sheets and Abreu all needing time there from time to time? And I would love Schwarber's bat in our lineup. Those Schwarbombs would fit in nicely between Eloy and Robert in the lineup. I just don't see a position for him here. Trade Sheets or Eloy and put Vaughn in left. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SonofaRoache 2,170 Posted November 28, 2021 The Tigers are trying to make moves yo take ownership of our division. Three moves and additions a few young studs in their system and we are back 2nd. One of those moves is Carlos Correa. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sarava 539 Posted November 28, 2021 Just now, hi8is said: Think outside the box. That could be a lot of things. If it means trading Eloy, no thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreenSox 547 Posted November 28, 2021 15 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Sox are going to run Jean Segura out there; a guy who is 32 years old; a guy who very easily could fall off a cliff at his age and given his skill set. They'll pay him 14 million too just to shed Kimbrel's salary. Pick up Kimbel's option, only to pay Segura $14 mill, when you could have Escobar for $10 mil. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaliSoxFanViaSWside 3,916 Posted November 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sarava said: Conforto and Schwarber? Where are you going to play Schwarber if you have Conforto in RF? Isn't DH kind of clogged up with Vaughn, Grandal, Sheets and Abreu all needing time there from time to time? And I would love Schwarber's bat in our lineup. Those Schwarbombs would fit in nicely between Eloy and Robert in the lineup. I just don't see a position for him here. Well he did say trade for a TOR starter . That might take Vaughn and Sheets though I would imagine teams not real anxious for2 DH's for a TOR starter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Look at Ray Ray Run 7,329 Posted November 28, 2021 Just now, GreenSox said: Pick up Kimbel's option, only to pay Segura $14 mill, when you could have Escobar for $10 mil. White Sox baseball. We're all-in, baby! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maloney.adam 1,070 Posted November 28, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Sarava said: That could be a lot of things. If it means trading Eloy, no thanks. One of the other outfielders (excluding Robert) or Sheets has got to go than. Edited November 28, 2021 by maloney.adam Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SoCalChiSox 726 Posted November 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, hi8is said: Think outside the box. Implying a Vaughn trade...kind of like Harold a few days ago. Although that doesn't make sense...if it did, the key time would be 4:25pm not 4:26 pm, unless he threw in that extra minute as a smokescreen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tnetennba 3,947 Posted November 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, Sarava said: Conforto and Schwarber? Where are you going to play Schwarber if you have Conforto in RF? Isn't DH kind of clogged up with Vaughn, Grandal, Sheets and Abreu all needing time there from time to time? And I would love Schwarber's bat in our lineup. Those Schwarbombs would fit in nicely between Eloy and Robert in the lineup. I just don't see a position for him here. Schwarber is better than any DH on the roster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites