chetkincaid Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 This doesn’t surprise me at all. I’m surprised it didn’t happen last year. I’ve been waiting on it since 2020 when he didn’t go longer in game 3 of the Oakland series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 Hector Santiago??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 This is sad news but was bound to happen. Better it happened before this season began so that we can adjust. We probably should bring in another bullpen arm as we need to be desperate for a top 2 seed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoeLessRob Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 💩 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambuca Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 Really puts on a damper on the Kimbrel trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spicy gar Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 Think the injury will probably turn him into a full time reliever. Bummer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GradMc Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 22 hours ago, A-Train to 35th said: I believe JR and Hahn were blamed for Vaughn's hip pointer when everyone thought he was done for the year because the Sox were too cheap to sign Conforto and he was playing out of position. The blame will never stop. No Jerry it won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 11 hours ago, Spicy gar said: Think the injury will probably turn him into a full time reliever. Bummer The way we handled him turned him into a full time reliever lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 33 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: The way we handled him turned him into a full time reliever lol yup 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: The way we handled him turned him into a full time reliever lol There was really no other way to handle him, innings wise. Unless you only wanted him to pitch part of a season. Edited April 2, 2022 by ptatc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 55 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: The way we handled him turned him into a full time reliever lol What would have been a better way to use his 50-60 innings limit? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 5 minutes ago, ptatc said: What would have been a better way to use his 50-60 innings limit? If our plan out of the draft was to only pitch him 50-60 innings his first year, then he shouldn't have been picked. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 (edited) Wrong thread. Edited April 2, 2022 by SoxBlanco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: If our plan out of the draft was to only pitch him 50-60 innings his first year, then he shouldn't have been picked. I agree but thats a separate discussion. That doesn't mean the way they handled him made him a reliever. He only pitched 13 innings his last year of college. There was no way he could have been handled differently "to stretch him out." It was just going to take longer to build him up. Edited April 2, 2022 by ptatc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 (edited) 22 minutes ago, ptatc said: I agree but thats a separate discussion. That doesn't mean the way they handled him made him a reliever. He only pitched 13 innings his last year of college. There was no way he could have been handled differently "to stretch him out." It was just going to take longer to build him up. Pitching him only 60 innings in the majors made him a lifetime reliever. His clock started (only has 6 years). Year 2, only 80 innings Year 3 120 innings. Year 4 160 innings. We now have two years of a full time starter with no restrictions. This was best case scenario with no injuries (unlikely). Clearly wasn't likely, thus the way we handled him (60 innings in the majors, thus starting his clock) made him a full time reliever. If this was the plan.. It was stupid. Pitching him 60 (if that was his limit), in the minors is a far different scenario. Edited April 2, 2022 by Squirmin' for Yermin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: Pitching him only 60 innings in the majors made him a lifetime reliever. His clock started (only has 6 years). Year 2, only 80 innings Year 3 120 innings. Year 4 160 innings. We now have two years of a full time starter with no restrictions. This was best case scenario with no injuries (unlikely). Clearly wasn't likely, thus the way we handled him (60 innings in the majors, thus starting his clock) made him a full time reliever. If this was the plan.. It was stupid. Pitching him 60 (if that was his limit), in the minors is a far different scenario. Why couldn't he be a full time starter in your scenario in the majors? He would be a full time starter by year 4. His limit was 50-60 with never being a full time starter college and only 13 innings in the COVID year with an injury. If your point is that you only wanted to see him in the majors as a starter and wanted gim to work as a reliever and part time starter in the majors that's fine. He would be in the majors in 2 more years or so. But he would would have followed the exact same innings and plan either way. So what is of more benefit to the White Sox and his development? Following that plan while helping the White Sox win now or having him as a fulltime starter in 2024 and no help now? Edited April 2, 2022 by ptatc 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grinder Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 We seem to be snake bitten dont we! Of course every team deals w injuries but we seem to have more than our share, sigh!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 TJS confirmed by Crochet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Eminor3rd Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 This sucks buts it’s hard to make the argument that it’s anyone’s fault, in particular. Until we make some serious advances in injury prevention, this shit just happens a lot to pitchers, especially with elite stuff, around this age. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 Kinda cool that he's going to be around the team when he can. Unsure if that's standard procedure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, DirtySox said: Kinda cool that he's going to be around the team when he can. Unsure if that's standard procedure. Once a month isn't uncommon. Check in with the trainers for progress. Edited April 2, 2022 by ptatc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EloyJenkins Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 See you for the playoff push in 2023 Garrett. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScootsMcGoots Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 Welp. At least he has plenty of pitchers on the team that have been there and can help him through it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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