Crochet having Tommy John surgery Tuesday

[chetkincaid 435]

This doesn’t surprise me at all. I’m surprised it didn’t happen last year. I’ve been waiting on it since 2020 when he didn’t go longer in game 3 of the Oakland series. 

[CentralChamps21 2,026]

Hector Santiago???

[SonofaRoache 2,123]

This is sad news but was bound to happen. Better it happened before this season began so that we can adjust. We probably should bring in another bullpen arm as we need to be desperate for a top 2 seed. 

[ShoeLessRob 1,588]

💩

[Sambuca 239]

Really puts on a damper on the Kimbrel trade.  

[Spicy gar 60]

Think the injury will probably turn him into a full time reliever. Bummer

[GradMc 402]

22 hours ago, A-Train to 35th said:

I believe JR and Hahn were blamed for Vaughn's hip pointer when everyone thought he was done for the year because the Sox were too cheap to sign Conforto and he was playing out of position.  The blame will never stop.

No Jerry it won't.

 

[Squirmin' for Yermin 1,561]

11 hours ago, Spicy gar said:

Think the injury will probably turn him into a full time reliever. Bummer

The way we handled him turned him into a full time reliever lol

[Harold's Leg Lift 2,218]

33 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

The way we handled him turned him into a full time reliever lol

yup

[ptatc 2,692]

50 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

The way we handled him turned him into a full time reliever lol

There was really no other way to handle him, innings wise.

Unless you only wanted him to pitch part of a season.

Edited April 2 by ptatc

[ptatc 2,692]

55 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

The way we handled him turned him into a full time reliever lol

What would have been a better way to use his 50-60 innings limit?

[Squirmin' for Yermin 1,561]

5 minutes ago, ptatc said:

What would have been a better way to use his 50-60 innings limit?

If our plan out of the draft was to only pitch him 50-60 innings his first year, then he shouldn't have been picked.

 

[SoxBlanco 1,225]

Wrong thread. 

Edited April 2 by SoxBlanco

[ptatc 2,692]

5 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

If our plan out of the draft was to only pitch him 50-60 innings his first year, then he shouldn't have been picked.

 

I agree but thats a separate discussion. That doesn't mean the way they handled him made him a reliever. 

He only pitched 13 innings his last year of college. There was no way he could have been handled differently "to stretch him out." It was just going to take longer to build him up.

Edited April 2 by ptatc

[Squirmin' for Yermin 1,561]

22 minutes ago, ptatc said:

I agree but thats a separate discussion. That doesn't mean the way they handled him made him a reliever. 

He only pitched 13 innings his last year of college. There was no way he could have been handled differently "to stretch him out." It was just going to take longer to build him up.

Pitching him only 60 innings in the majors made him a lifetime reliever.  His clock started (only has 6 years).  Year 2, only 80 innings Year 3 120 innings.  Year 4 160 innings.  We now have two years of a full time starter with no restrictions.  This was best case scenario with no injuries (unlikely).  Clearly wasn't likely, thus the way we handled him (60 innings in the majors, thus starting his clock) made him a full time reliever.  If this was the plan.. It was stupid.  Pitching him 60 (if that was his limit), in the minors is a far different scenario.

Edited April 2 by Squirmin' for Yermin

[ptatc 2,692]

11 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

Pitching him only 60 innings in the majors made him a lifetime reliever.  His clock started (only has 6 years).  Year 2, only 80 innings Year 3 120 innings.  Year 4 160 innings.  We now have two years of a full time starter with no restrictions.  This was best case scenario with no injuries (unlikely).  Clearly wasn't likely, thus the way we handled him (60 innings in the majors, thus starting his clock) made him a full time reliever.  If this was the plan.. It was stupid.  Pitching him 60 (if that was his limit), in the minors is a far different scenario.

Why couldn't he be a full time starter in your scenario in the majors? He would be a full time starter by year 4.

His limit was 50-60 with never being a full time starter college and only 13 innings in the COVID year with an injury. 

If your point is that you only wanted to see him in the majors as a starter and wanted gim to work as a reliever and part time starter in the majors that's fine. He would be in the majors in 2 more years or so.

But he would would have followed the exact same innings and plan either way.

So what is of more benefit to the White Sox and his development? Following that plan while helping the White Sox win now or having him as a fulltime starter in 2024 and no help now?

Edited April 2 by ptatc

[The Grinder 160]

We seem to be snake bitten dont we! Of course every team deals w injuries but we seem to have more than our share, sigh!!!

[ChiSox59 4,989]

TJS confirmed by Crochet. 

[Tnetennba 3,558]

 

[Tnetennba 3,558]

 

[Eminor3rd 1,119]

This sucks buts it’s hard to make the argument that it’s anyone’s fault, in particular. Until we make some serious advances in injury prevention, this shit just happens a lot to pitchers, especially with elite stuff, around this age. 

[DirtySox 2,463]

Kinda cool that he's going to be around the team when he can. Unsure if that's standard procedure.

[ptatc 2,692]

1 hour ago, DirtySox said:

Kinda cool that he's going to be around the team when he can. Unsure if that's standard procedure.

Once a month isn't uncommon. Check in with the trainers for progress. 

Edited April 2 by ptatc

[EloyJenkins 1,775]

See you for the playoff push in 2023 Garrett.

[ScooterMcGuire 1,467]

Welp. At least he has plenty of pitchers on the team that have been there and can help him through it.