wegner Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 The Sox next off day is April 25th....let's bring this conversation back then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 12, 2022 Author Share Posted April 12, 2022 This has obviously been a leak from the A's side. I think they want to get this done sooner or later, and it is no coincidence that it happened right after all of the Sox pitching injuries, and it mentioned Andrew Vaughn by name two days after another rumor did the same thing. I think the A's want to get this done sooner, while the Sox want to get it done at their price. We all know the Sox would much rather sneak up on someone and make a deal in quiet, while Oakland wants the whole world to know so that they can try to get more/bigger bids for their last big chess auction. This information was obviously put out there for a reason and with a purpose. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: This has obviously been a leak from the A's side. I think they want to get this done sooner or later, and it is no coincidence that it happened right after all of the Sox pitching injuries, and it mentioned Andrew Vaughn by name two days after another rumor did the same thing. I think the A's want to get this done sooner, while the Sox want to get it done at their price. We all know the Sox would much rather sneak up on someone and make a deal in quiet, while Oakland wants the whole world to know so that they can try to get more/bigger bids for their last big chess auction. This information was obviously put out there for a reason and with a purpose. So the Soxtalk insider actually has a connection with the A’s? Seems questionable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 I can't wait for the Keuchel/Bumgarner swap, personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 (edited) Hahn shot this down on the radio like an hour ago fyi, at least the Vaughn part Edited April 12, 2022 by mqr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: This has obviously been a leak from the A's side. I think they want to get this done sooner or later, and it is no coincidence that it happened right after all of the Sox pitching injuries, and it mentioned Andrew Vaughn by name two days after another rumor did the same thing. I think the A's want to get this done sooner, while the Sox want to get it done at their price. We all know the Sox would much rather sneak up on someone and make a deal in quiet, while Oakland wants the whole world to know so that they can try to get more/bigger bids for their last big chess auction. This information was obviously put out there for a reason and with a purpose. Why would they quickly settle for a lousy package from the Padres when the Sox were supposedly in the thick of it…granted, one versus two years of control, but Manaea has the much better overall track record and is now being considered a dark horse MVP candidate? The Olson package feels light too, because Pache might never be more than a low 200’s hitter. It’s just weird they are supposedly so patient to negotiate in public now after ditching three of their studs (including Chapman) so quickly. Maybe they’re waiting on the Twins/Archer and Paddack to get bombed by the Dodgers…Dylan Bundy definitely held his ground coming out of the gate. (Waits for Balta to show up with his own counter-prediction on those two guys.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, bmags said: I can't wait for the Keuchel/Bumgarner swap, personally. World Series experience. Throwing at least 92-93, touching 94 again. Left-handed. Obvious issues with a TA7, but who knows. $15M deferred ($5M each of 2021-2023) Limited Trade Protection (5-team no trade list) Only owed $60 million through 2024!!! Probably has the White Sox on his no trade list, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 12, 2022 Author Share Posted April 12, 2022 35 minutes ago, mqr said: Hahn shot this down on the radio like an hour ago fyi, at least the Vaughn part Everyone has shot down the Vaughn part. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Everyone has shot down the Vaughn part. Hahn also needs to say no young left handed savages or Norge Vera will be dealt, too. I'm patiently waiting for that part. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxmb35 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 42 minutes ago, mqr said: Hahn shot this down on the radio like an hour ago fyi, at least the Vaughn part Vaughn was never on the table to begin with, everyone that knows anything knows that it was shot down from the jump? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 50 minutes ago, mqr said: Hahn shot this down on the radio like an hour ago fyi, at least the Vaughn part What did he say exactly? JC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pal Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said: Do you still think there is smoke there and it’s just delayed? Yeah, there was/is smoke for sure. People who know better than me seem to think it wasn't as close though and they would appear to be right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 42 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: What did he say exactly? JC. Basically never say never to trading any player for the right guy, but they don't think that guy is out there for Vaughn atm 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstar Lamar Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 2 hours ago, Pal said: My bad last night. I'll take the L. Truly believed a deal was finished. Jason Kinander must have put the kibosh on yet another trade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 Of course he'd say this, but it's still pretty funny 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTB Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 Has anyone heard from @soxlover15? Hope he’s feeling OK today. 😁 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 Gavin Sheets might be dealt is a rumor or Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 Well Montas and is scheduled to pitch tomorrow, so at least give it another game to see if he sucks this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Sox have bad luck trading with Oakland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kids Can Play Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 This is just plain stupid. Depending on which review or source you go by, the A's farm system is ranked 22nd -26th in MLB. They have gutted all their top players to have the 29th ranked team payroll...second to last! They don't have enough talent to waste Hahn's time telling him they are interested in Vaughn. Hahn isn't going to give up the 2019 overall #3 draft pick to a team like the A's who have nothing to offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrathofhahn Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 The Padres trade was the one to make. Just going off what was moved it doesn't seem like it cost as much and what they gave up we could have matched up well with. We have a bunch of cheap relievers and we could have offered someone like Sheets. How much worse is an offer Bummer and Sheets to Rogers and Rooker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, wrathofhahn said: The Padres trade was the one to make. Just going off what was moved it doesn't seem like it cost as much and what they gave up we could have matched up well with. We have a bunch of cheap relievers and we could have offered someone like Sheets. How much worse is an offer Bummer and Sheets to Rogers and Rooker? Its a better offer. But the Sox most certainly are not in a position to be giving away Bummer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, wrathofhahn said: The Padres trade was the one to make. Just going off what was moved it doesn't seem like it cost as much and what they gave up we could have matched up well with. We have a bunch of cheap relievers and we could have offered someone like Sheets. How much worse is an offer Bummer and Sheets to Rogers and Rooker? Bummer has way more years of control and you can probably argue he is the same caliber reliever that Rogers is. Sheets is also more valuable than Rooker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 I would not include Sheets in any package for Montas. Sheets looked to be in great shape (from my perspective in RF yesterday) and seemed faster than he was last season as he tracked down a couple of fly balls including some that he had to run down a long way. Sheets doeskin get the hype that Vaughn does but he could end up being just as valuable to this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 1 minute ago, tray said: I would not include Sheets in any package for Montas. Sheets looked to be in great shape (from my perspective in RF yesterday) and seemed faster than he was last season as he tracked down a couple of fly balls including some that he had to run down a long way. Sheets doeskin get the hype that Vaughn does but he could end up being just as valuable to this team. Sheets' value to the team is limited with Abreu, Jimenez, and Vaughn all being guys who can only play 1B, or play OF sub-optimally. True that none of those guys are lefties, but you have to have Grandal not catching 20-30% of the time so he can pick up that DH/1B time that might otherwise go to Sheets. You might have 2-3 spots in the post-season where you wish you had Sheets' lefty bat, but you'll have entire games where you wish you had Montas pitching, unless Keuchel is somehow a lot better than last year, which I'm not counting on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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