greg775 Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Dallas upset he got pulled after five with a pitch count at 86. Glad to see veteran pitchers like me sick of not letting pitchers go deep. Like Dallas said he's a "pitcher." By gosh let them pitch, MLB. Kudos to Dallas K for a nice outing. https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/white-sox/white-sox-dallas-keuchel-early-hook-little-disappointed?cid=sm_npd_rsn_chi_twt_mn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 (edited) Keuchel had an ERA of almost 9 third time through the order last season. He turned the average hitter against him into Aaron Judge. He's lucky to play for one of the few managers in baseball that would ever let him see the lead-off hitter for a 3rd time. edit - I probably should have mentioned that had Keuchel been managed like he should have been during the 2nd half of last season, the Sox almost certainly would have had the 2 seed thus giving them HFA vs Houston. Stuff like that on the margins really matters, and it's exactly what Tony has been getting wrong (mostly) for 2 years. Edited May 15, 2022 by maxjusttyped 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spumoni Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 (edited) He got pulled because everyone knows a third time through the lineup for Dallas is a nightmare. He did his job tonight, and TLR used him correctly. Edited May 15, 2022 by Spumoni 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 He is correct about the bullpen workload. As James Fegan reported yesterday: https://theathletic.com/3311264/2022/05/14/the-white-sox-are-playing-too-many-hard-games-to-avoid-hard-bullpen-decisions/ Quote While La Russa touted before Thursday’s game that the Wednesday postponement provided him with a full bullpen, the Sox entered Friday with Liam Hendriks, Kendall Graveman, Matt Foster and José Ruiz all on pace for more than 75 appearances on the season. In other words, through 30 games, the Sox had four relievers on pace to record what would have been the fifth-most appearances in baseball last season. And really, only a knee strain and injured list stint knocked Aaron Bummer off the same pace. A good portion of the responsibility rests on the sputtering hitters. The Sox' 10 of 16 2022 wins have been close games (1-3 runs) with only 1 "blow out" 5+ run win. The Sox won 32 blowout games (5 + run wins) last season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 6 hours ago, South Side Hit Men said: He is correct about the bullpen workload. As James Fegan reported yesterday: https://theathletic.com/3311264/2022/05/14/the-white-sox-are-playing-too-many-hard-games-to-avoid-hard-bullpen-decisions/ A good portion of the responsibility rests on the sputtering hitters. The Sox' 10 of 16 2022 wins have been close games (1-3 runs) with only 1 "blow out" 5+ run win. The Sox won 32 blowout games (5 + run wins) last season. 13 of the 16 wins have been close games (1-3 runs). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 I don't mind a pitcher being upset about getting pulled nor do I mind him blowing off steam about it, but no way should Dallas ever go more than 5 innings unless he's not made it all the way through the lineup twice yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Fair enough but I'm glad he did get pulled. He did his job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 (edited) Dude is a little too feisty for a guy that just became a MLB pitcher again two weeks ago Edited May 15, 2022 by Chick Mercedes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarava Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 He wants to hit 160 IP, which he won't get to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoeLessRob Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Way to make a difficult win that the team barely pulled off about you Dallas! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaDoc Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Dallas did his job yesterday. He struggled in his last inning and after this game has a season line of a 5.54 ERA and a WHIP of 1.96. Also third time through the order woes as noted above. He might have gone back out if he had a nice 1,2,3 inning but he didn't. I am glad he is a competitor but whining to the media doesn't need to happen. Hopefully, he expressed his feelings to his manager and pitching coach. But frankly, the statistics don't care about his feelings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Five and dive for Dallas. This is the way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, South Side Hit Men said: He is correct about the bullpen workload. As James Fegan reported yesterday: https://theathletic.com/3311264/2022/05/14/the-white-sox-are-playing-too-many-hard-games-to-avoid-hard-bullpen-decisions/ A good portion of the responsibility rests on the sputtering hitters. The Sox' 10 of 16 2022 wins have been close games (1-3 runs) with only 1 "blow out" 5+ run win. The Sox won 32 blowout games (5 + run wins) last season. This is also true and will become an even bigger problem when the 14 man pitching staff is reduced to 13. When people scream in the game threads about using other guys in situations that they don't agree with the amount of high leverage situations cannot only be picked up by the best guys. While we also scream about the position playing resting too much, it's crucial with the reduction in the staff coming that the Sox score more runs because the if close games continue we are going to see more of the bottom relievers being used in situation we don't like. Edited May 15, 2022 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinky Stanky Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 3 hours ago, Chick Mercedes said: Dude is a little too feisty for a guy that just became a MLB pitcher again two weeks ago S'why we all love him. Seriously, he did 5 shoutout innings with his junk stuff, which should make all of us happy. The three walks are only an indication that he tries and needs to paint the corners They worry me less than Hendriks's close to zero walks which tell me that he throws everything down the middle. I thought that would get him beat last night and it almost did, esp. since he was near 100% of his flat fastball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 3 hours ago, Sarava said: He wants to hit 160 IP, which he won't get to. If he continues to pitch like yesterday he deserves to get to 160 and the contract next year but probably wont. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, ptatc said: If he continues to pitch like yesterday he deserves to get to 160 and the contract next year but probably wont. It would be the lone baseball reason Jerry would fire Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, ptatc said: If he continues to pitch like yesterday he deserves to get to 160 and the contract next year but probably wont. About 20% through the season and he still has 134 more to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 38 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: About 20% through the season and he still has 134 more to go. Thats why I said probably won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBWSF Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Did anybody think that Dallas would be pitching in the only win against the Yankees this weekend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 1 hour ago, WBWSF said: Did anybody think that Dallas would be pitching in the only win against the Yankees this weekend? No way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 4 hours ago, Bob Sacamano said: About 20% through the season and he still has 134 more to go. 6 starts. Theoretically 24-26 left. Pace right now is 24, fwiw. If he had pitched 4 more innings so far and also was to take the full 32 starts, he’d be right there on the doorstep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 On 5/15/2022 at 11:00 AM, Stinky Stanky said: S'why we all love him. Seriously, he did 5 shoutout innings with his junk stuff, which should make all of us happy. The three walks are only an indication that he tries and needs to paint the corners They worry me less than Hendriks's close to zero walks which tell me that he throws everything down the middle. I thought that would get him beat last night and it almost did, esp. since he was near 100% of his flat fastball. No. His shutout innings only give him the opportunity to pitch again on the MLB level. Which should never happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 So are we sticking to the narrative Sox have nowhere to go but Kuechel? I have a suggestion where he can go though? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimpton Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 2 hours ago, Chick Mercedes said: So are we sticking to the narrative Sox have nowhere to go but Kuechel? I have a suggestion where he can go though? Nowhere to go from within the organisation because of the lack of depth and it is unlikely they will trade for one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 Pretty sad that the sox system is so thin that they don't have a guy who can give them 5 innings with a 4.5 era. I wonder if it would make sense to use an opener for dallas as long as you need him. Have an opener go the first 5-6 batters so dallas starts with the bottom of the lineup and only goes through the heart of the order like once or twice at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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