caulfield12 Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 40 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: Hello darkness my old friend.... Now playing 3B for the White Sox, Jim Morrison… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 (edited) The guy can’t even run. Full time DHing him will do nothing to keep him on the field. Edited June 9, 2022 by Bob Sacamano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SoxBlanco Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 25 minutes ago, reiks12 said: what "normal leg soreness" warrants 5 days of inactivity? Why was he playing the field then? I just dont get it The five days could just be because of the rehab stint rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 I wish they would have traded him and Moncada when they had a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: The guy can’t even run. DHing will do nothing to keep him on the field. Yet still somehow faster than Vaughn and Sheets in the outfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 Just now, caulfield12 said: Yet still somehow faster than Vaughn and Sheets in the outfield. I'll take Vaughn in the OF over Eloy all day. 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 Just now, South Side Fireworks Man said: I wish they would have traded him and Moncada when they had a chance. Imagine the Cubs dealing Bryant and Baez in 2017… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Imagine the Cubs dealing Bryant and Baez in 2017… Not the same thing. I suggested trading Yoan and Eloy a year ago. Eloy and Yoan will never be part of a championship team like Bryant and Baez were. If the Sox are still counting on Yoan and Eloy to be at the center of their so-called "championship core" then their core is hollow and their rebuild is a failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, South Side Fireworks Man said: Not the same thing. I suggested trading Yoan and Eloy a year ago. Eloy and Yoan will never be part of a championship team like Bryant and Baez were. If the Sox are still counting on Yoan and Eloy to be at the center of their so-called "championship core" then their core is hollow and their rebuild is a failure. You didn’t know a year ago Burger might be a viable replacement, though… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 10 minutes ago, South Side Fireworks Man said: Not the same thing. I suggested trading Yoan and Eloy a year ago. Eloy and Yoan will never be part of a championship team like Bryant and Baez were. If the Sox are still counting on Yoan and Eloy to be at the center of their so-called "championship core" then their core is hollow and their rebuild is a failure. I think the jury is out on this. These are still pretty young, pretty insanely talented players dealing with injuries. Also, in this thread and others, why do White Sox fans want so badly to blame someone for these injuries, whether its the player, the training staff, the GM, Tony, etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 The entire team trains the wrong way other than Cease and I'd imagine some of the other pitchers. Too many of our guys are young and suffering chronic lower body issues. That's a training issue when it happens across the team and with young players. Shit, ask Jake Burger what he does to stay healthy coming off two torn achilles I bet he has a lot of insight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, Greg Hibbard said: I think the jury is out on this. These are still pretty young, pretty insanely talented players dealing with injuries. Also, in this thread and others, why do White Sox fans want so badly to blame someone for these injuries, whether its the player, the training staff, the GM, Tony, etc? I mean, it's kind of human nature, no? It's easier to accept that something is someone's fault rather than just the result of bad luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 13 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: You didn’t know a year ago Burger might be a viable replacement, though… No, but I knew Eloy and Yoan weren't going to live up to the hype and were not the type of players to build around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 Gavin Sheets lives on. Can't wait to get that bum off this roster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 23 minutes ago, South Side Fireworks Man said: Not the same thing. I suggested trading Yoan and Eloy a year ago. Eloy and Yoan will never be part of a championship team like Bryant and Baez were. If the Sox are still counting on Yoan and Eloy to be at the center of their so-called "championship core" then their core is hollow and their rebuild is a failure. Moncada put up a 4 WAR last year without hitting much. Eloy won a Silver Slugger last time he was healthy. I know it's easy to kick a horse while they are down, but to say these guys can't contribute to a championship team is a hot take. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 9 minutes ago, Greg Hibbard said: I think the jury is out on this. These are still pretty young, pretty insanely talented players dealing with injuries. Also, in this thread and others, why do White Sox fans want so badly to blame someone for these injuries, whether its the player, the training staff, the GM, Tony, etc? Eloy was always a one dimensional player and even when he has been healthy his hitting hasn't been what they expected. Of course he's stillyoung but it's hard to see how they can keep him on the field and even as a DH he seems prone to injury. Yoan was over-hyped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Dick Allen said: Moncada put up a 4 WAR last year without hitting much. Eloy won a Silver Slugger last time he was healthy. I know it's easy to kick a horse while they are down, but to say these guys can't contribute to a championship team is a hot take. Time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, South Side Fireworks Man said: No, but I knew Eloy and Yoan weren't going to live up to the hype and were not the type of players to build around. Yoan is 100% a player you can build around. He looks awful right now because he's injured. Eloy....maybe. Dude can't stay healthy. But if he can, he'd be plenty fine as a DH masher on a contender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, South Side Fireworks Man said: Yoan was over-hyped. Yoan was indeed overhyped, but has still been a productive player. Those two are not mutually exclusive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 9, 2022 Author Share Posted June 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Sleepy Harold said: Hello darkness my old friend.... So Eloy is ahead of schedule... for getting reinjured. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Yoan is 100% a player you can build around. He looks awful right now because he's injured. Eloy....maybe. Dude can't stay healthy. But if he can, he'd be plenty fine as a DH masher on a contender. Why isn't Yoan on the IL if he's injured? If Eloy can stay healthy and if he wants/is able to be a full time DH he would be fine as a DH on a contender. But I wouldn't build a team around him as part of the core. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, Snopek said: Yoan was indeed overhyped, but has still been a productive player. Those two are not mutually exclusive. Productive yes. But not the kind of player you build around as the center of your core. More of a nice complementary piece to round out your team. And that's when he was performing well. Who knows if he'll ever perform that well again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brijames1957 Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 Moncada, Jimenez, and Lynn are all overweight. Not one of them takes conditioning seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, brijames1957 said: Moncada, Jimenez, and Lynn are all overweight. Not one of them takes conditioning seriously. That's not the problem with Moncada. If that's the case, Liam Hendriks needs to lose a lot of weight, comparatively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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