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11 minutes ago, WBWSF said:

Do you really think anybody would want Moncada and his contract? If the White Sox make a big trade I'm expecting that Burger will be traded.

If Kopech’s knee discomfort is going to limit him, not seeing a very realistic path to chasing down two teams now that seem to have the White Sox number at least in the early season…

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I've seen his name floated out there on the interwebs, but Miami isn't gonna trade Jazz Chisolm are they? I know Miami is perpetually rebuilding it feels like, but he's a 24 year old left handed 2nd baseman with power and speed. He owns a .900+ OPS vs RHP which the Sox could really use.

 

The random website that floated out his name as a target suggested Eloy for Jazz. I think it'd definitely have to be Eloy+, but I'd make that trade. 

 

I'm not ready to give up on Moncada, and Burger looks like a guy who should be the everyday DH. That means, until Abreu retires, Vaughn is I'm the outfield with Robert and Pollock. 

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6 minutes ago, scs787 said:

I've seen his name floated out there on the interwebs, but Miami isn't gonna trade Jazz Chisolm are they? I know Miami is perpetually rebuilding it feels like, but he's a 24 year old left handed 2nd baseman with power and speed. He owns a .900+ OPS vs RHP which the Sox could really use.

 

The random website that floated out his name as a target suggested Eloy for Jazz. I think it'd definitely have to be Eloy+, but I'd make that trade. 

 

I'm not ready to give up on Moncada, and Burger looks like a guy who should be the everyday DH. That means, until Abreu retires, Vaughn is I'm the outfield with Robert and Pollock. 

Even if they were trying to, I don't think we have the trade capital. 

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3 hours ago, WBWSF said:

Do you really think anybody would want Moncada and his contract? If the White Sox make a big trade I'm expecting that Burger will be traded.

His contract appears big to the Sox and Sox fans, but is quite reasonable for a team willing to pay money to players.

I certainly rather pay Moncada $66M over the next three years (or $46M over two + buyout) than pay $18M-$19M per season to mid 30s Grandal, Keuchel and Lynn. Baseball revenue will continue to rise, and there are no inflation clauses in the contracts.

The contracts that are problematic are those for players in their 30s for top dollar and several years. Contracts like Strasburg, Corbin, Rendon, Pujols, etc.

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1 hour ago, South Side Hit Men said:

His contract appears big to the Sox and Sox fans, but is quite reasonable for a team willing to pay money to players.

I certainly rather pay Moncada $66M over the next three years (or $46M over two + buyout) than pay $18M-$19M per season to mid 30s Grandal, Keuchel and Lynn. Baseball revenue will continue to rise, and there are no inflation clauses in the contracts.

The contracts that are problematic are those for players in their 30s for top dollar and several years. Contracts like Strasburg, Corbin, Rendon, Pujols, etc.

Especially as there is still the hope that Moncada is young enough that he could improve his offensive numbers again if injury free (a big if I know) whereas Grandal and Lynn will fall away with age.

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5 hours ago, Chimpton said:

Especially as there is still the hope that Moncada is young enough that he could improve his offensive numbers again if injury free (a big if I know) whereas Grandal and Lynn will fall away with age.

Urshela and Garlick at 30 are the two oldest Twins’ position players.

For the Guardians, Maile (backup catcher) is 31 and Jose Ramirez turning 30 before the end of the season.

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9 hours ago, chw42 said:

Even if they were trying to, I don't think we have the trade capital. 

Probably not.....unless they believe in Eloy. 

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A couple solid relievers and a lefty stick that can cover 2B and LF/RF would be ideal.  

I don't think this team has earned a big splash. 

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How far has Eloy fallen when people think it would take him AND THEN SOME to acquire Jazz Chisholm.

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3 minutes ago, T R U said:

How far has Eloy fallen when people think it would take him AND THEN SOME to acquire Jazz Chisholm.

a lot.  He cannot play defense and he cannot stay healthy... Also, the past 2 years, he couldn't hit.

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16 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

There's just no way they are willing to surrender all the pieces for Soto.

It would be Vera, Burger, Montgomery and Sosa/Ramos/Colas.

There's no way they are extending Soto into the $375 million range with JR still the owner, either.

I'd do that trade in a heart beat. They'd laugh at that offer

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2 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

I'd do that trade in a heart beat.

We all would, Washington however would not.

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2 hours ago, ChiSox59 said:

A couple solid relievers and a lefty stick that can cover 2B and LF/RF would be ideal.  

I don't think this team has earned a big splash. 

Not only that, I don’t think they have what it takes to get a big splash.

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10 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

Good lord Hahn why are you such a pussy.

 

Did Willie Calhoun suddenly get good at defense?

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6 minutes ago, Quin said:

Did Willie Calhoun suddenly get good at defense?

or offense for that matter.

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Willie Calhoun is not a good player, but who knows what the Giants will turn him into

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20 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

Good lord Hahn why are you such a pussy.

 

willy calhoun sucks. 

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26 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

Good lord Hahn why are you such a pussy.

 

Willie Calhoun is a positionless baseball player and you wanted Hahn to acquire him despite the Sox having 12 of those guys?

Man, between this and Kelenic, I think the game is passing you by Harold!

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I'll add Calhoun is a prime Giants-convert success story offensively. He's always had great underlying numbers, but something about his production didn't mesh with his skill-set. 

If any team can maximize those offensive tools, it's the Giants but still. Calhoun has no position.

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Always room for NL players that wont improve the team.  Keep riding that train. One day it might work if I'm granted 3 lifetimes.

I'm finding the trade deadline one of the most frightening things as a fan.

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