caulfield12 4,424 Posted June 20 11 minutes ago, WBWSF said: Do you really think anybody would want Moncada and his contract? If the White Sox make a big trade I'm expecting that Burger will be traded. If Kopech’s knee discomfort is going to limit him, not seeing a very realistic path to chasing down two teams now that seem to have the White Sox number at least in the early season… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scs787 73 Posted June 20 I've seen his name floated out there on the interwebs, but Miami isn't gonna trade Jazz Chisolm are they? I know Miami is perpetually rebuilding it feels like, but he's a 24 year old left handed 2nd baseman with power and speed. He owns a .900+ OPS vs RHP which the Sox could really use. The random website that floated out his name as a target suggested Eloy for Jazz. I think it'd definitely have to be Eloy+, but I'd make that trade. I'm not ready to give up on Moncada, and Burger looks like a guy who should be the everyday DH. That means, until Abreu retires, Vaughn is I'm the outfield with Robert and Pollock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chw42 4,988 Posted June 20 6 minutes ago, scs787 said: I've seen his name floated out there on the interwebs, but Miami isn't gonna trade Jazz Chisolm are they? I know Miami is perpetually rebuilding it feels like, but he's a 24 year old left handed 2nd baseman with power and speed. He owns a .900+ OPS vs RHP which the Sox could really use. The random website that floated out his name as a target suggested Eloy for Jazz. I think it'd definitely have to be Eloy+, but I'd make that trade. I'm not ready to give up on Moncada, and Burger looks like a guy who should be the everyday DH. That means, until Abreu retires, Vaughn is I'm the outfield with Robert and Pollock. Even if they were trying to, I don't think we have the trade capital. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
South Side Hit Men 2,630 Posted June 20 (edited) 3 hours ago, WBWSF said: Do you really think anybody would want Moncada and his contract? If the White Sox make a big trade I'm expecting that Burger will be traded. His contract appears big to the Sox and Sox fans, but is quite reasonable for a team willing to pay money to players. I certainly rather pay Moncada $66M over the next three years (or $46M over two + buyout) than pay $18M-$19M per season to mid 30s Grandal, Keuchel and Lynn. Baseball revenue will continue to rise, and there are no inflation clauses in the contracts. The contracts that are problematic are those for players in their 30s for top dollar and several years. Contracts like Strasburg, Corbin, Rendon, Pujols, etc. Edited June 20 by South Side Hit Men 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chimpton 211 Posted June 20 1 hour ago, South Side Hit Men said: His contract appears big to the Sox and Sox fans, but is quite reasonable for a team willing to pay money to players. I certainly rather pay Moncada $66M over the next three years (or $46M over two + buyout) than pay $18M-$19M per season to mid 30s Grandal, Keuchel and Lynn. Baseball revenue will continue to rise, and there are no inflation clauses in the contracts. The contracts that are problematic are those for players in their 30s for top dollar and several years. Contracts like Strasburg, Corbin, Rendon, Pujols, etc. Especially as there is still the hope that Moncada is young enough that he could improve his offensive numbers again if injury free (a big if I know) whereas Grandal and Lynn will fall away with age. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caulfield12 4,424 Posted June 20 5 hours ago, Chimpton said: Especially as there is still the hope that Moncada is young enough that he could improve his offensive numbers again if injury free (a big if I know) whereas Grandal and Lynn will fall away with age. Urshela and Garlick at 30 are the two oldest Twins’ position players. For the Guardians, Maile (backup catcher) is 31 and Jose Ramirez turning 30 before the end of the season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scs787 73 Posted June 20 9 hours ago, chw42 said: Even if they were trying to, I don't think we have the trade capital. Probably not.....unless they believe in Eloy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiSox59 5,404 Posted June 20 A couple solid relievers and a lefty stick that can cover 2B and LF/RF would be ideal. I don't think this team has earned a big splash. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T R U 607 Posted June 20 How far has Eloy fallen when people think it would take him AND THEN SOME to acquire Jazz Chisholm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squirmin' for Yermin 1,590 Posted June 20 3 minutes ago, T R U said: How far has Eloy fallen when people think it would take him AND THEN SOME to acquire Jazz Chisholm. a lot. He cannot play defense and he cannot stay healthy... Also, the past 2 years, he couldn't hit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squirmin' for Yermin 1,590 Posted June 20 (edited) 16 hours ago, caulfield12 said: There's just no way they are willing to surrender all the pieces for Soto. It would be Vera, Burger, Montgomery and Sosa/Ramos/Colas. There's no way they are extending Soto into the $375 million range with JR still the owner, either. I'd do that trade in a heart beat. They'd laugh at that offer Edited June 20 by Squirmin' for Yermin 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T R U 607 Posted June 20 2 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: I'd do that trade in a heart beat. We all would, Washington however would not. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CWSpalehoseCWS 862 Posted June 20 2 hours ago, ChiSox59 said: A couple solid relievers and a lefty stick that can cover 2B and LF/RF would be ideal. I don't think this team has earned a big splash. Not only that, I don’t think they have what it takes to get a big splash. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harold's Leg Lift 2,393 Posted June 23 Good lord Hahn why are you such a pussy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quin 4,537 Posted June 23 10 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: Good lord Hahn why are you such a pussy. Did Willie Calhoun suddenly get good at defense? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CentralChamps21 2,287 Posted June 23 6 minutes ago, Quin said: Did Willie Calhoun suddenly get good at defense? or offense for that matter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reiks12 2,148 Posted June 23 Willie Calhoun is not a good player, but who knows what the Giants will turn him into Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiSox59 5,404 Posted June 23 20 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: Good lord Hahn why are you such a pussy. willy calhoun sucks. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Look at Ray Ray Run 7,329 Posted June 23 26 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: Good lord Hahn why are you such a pussy. Willie Calhoun is a positionless baseball player and you wanted Hahn to acquire him despite the Sox having 12 of those guys? Man, between this and Kelenic, I think the game is passing you by Harold! 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Look at Ray Ray Run 7,329 Posted June 23 I'll add Calhoun is a prime Giants-convert success story offensively. He's always had great underlying numbers, but something about his production didn't mesh with his skill-set. If any team can maximize those offensive tools, it's the Giants but still. Calhoun has no position. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kitekrazy 388 Posted June 24 Always room for NL players that wont improve the team. Keep riding that train. One day it might work if I'm granted 3 lifetimes. I'm finding the trade deadline one of the most frightening things as a fan. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
