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What the hell is wrong with Giolito?

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On 6/18/2022 at 6:53 PM, South Side Hit Men said:

You have zero concept in terms of MLB player market value, or Katz' value to the White Sox. 

Don't worry, you'll get your wish when Giolito leaves next September for a much larger contract than the "FAIR" offer you are pimping.

Do you think Giolito improves once he's away from Tony and his staff? Based on the last few starts Fair may be overpaying. 

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On 6/19/2022 at 8:30 AM, oldsox said:

I have a very vague impression, and I don't know where it comes from, that Giolito does not particularly want to stay on White Sox.  I had the same feeling about Rodon.  I cannot back this up with anything specific.  Just a vibe.

Given the way the owner sabotaged his own organization, there may very well be others thinking the same way.

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40 minutes ago, Texsox said:

Do you think Giolito improves once he's away from Tony and his staff? Based on the last few starts Fair may be overpaying. 

In Gios case, I think is nothing to do with anything but Covid.

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I thought that once Lynn came back this rotation would be enough to get the team into the playoffs. A rotation of Lynn, Cueto, Cease, Kopech and Giolito should get it done. Looks like Giolito is tanking beyond belief. If he keeps  getting beat up I wonder if Hahn will try to trade for another starting pitcher. If so, i hope its sooner rather than later.

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5 minutes ago, Paulie4Pres said:

Regressed just like everyone under TLR and this coaching/training staff. 

Ironic since they brought in Gio's handpicked pitching coach. 

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MLB career (7 yrs) - 46-41 W/L; 4.24 ERA....hardly the ace Sox fans annointed him as. Throw in his new (relatively) short arm delivery and, well.....

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2 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

Jays kill sliders/cutters, taking away a go to option this year, especially against lefties…and the once pretty decent curveball long dead and buried with the over the top mechanics junked.

Now he throws from his ear like an NFL QB.

Can’t just go FB/CH when you’re losing your speed differential on those two with FB falling to 91-92 range…well off previous mid 90’s.

No weather excuses for the diminished stuff, either. 

He flings the ball like  T Rex

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Giolito would now be ranked 69th out of 71 qualified starters in ERA if he had enough IP.  He currently needs 3 2/3rd’s more IP.

Only three qualified in the majors with ERA’s over 5.

Jose Berrios at 5.11, G.Marquez 6.16 and P.Corbin 6.60.

xFIP at 3.73 actually .02 lower than last year’s 3.75.

 

5.2 fWAR to 4.5 (prorated) to 4.0 to 0.0 over the span of of three seasons.

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/lucas-giolito/15474/stats?position=P

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