Chisoxfn Posted January 14, 2003 Share Posted January 14, 2003 Sox Inch Closer to Colon as Market Dies By Mario Scalise Date: January 13, 2003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted January 14, 2003 Share Posted January 14, 2003 I hope KW doesn't deal Garland, Rauch and Crede for those two. I'd join the rest of them that are calling for KW's head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kj1832 Posted January 14, 2003 Share Posted January 14, 2003 You CAN NOT TRADE Crede. Good 3B are hard to come by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 14, 2003 Author Share Posted January 14, 2003 I agree with you fully on that. It would be sweet to bring in two stud younger pitchers, but not at the cost of Joe Crede, I can live with everyone else, but not Crede. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cy Young Porzio Posted January 14, 2003 Share Posted January 14, 2003 no way should crede go, as well as he played when just coming up, his potential is unlimited. Garland is pretty good but if he must be, then deal him. and rauch is too young to trade away either we dont have to give too much to get this deal done with the situation the expos are in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted January 14, 2003 Share Posted January 14, 2003 Pitching and defense win championships. Our 3B for 2000 was Herbert Perry, but no way am I going to trade Crede for Vazquez. Look at that BAA rise! Â With the Sox the only team pursuing COlon heavily, don't be surprised if Stewart, RHP prospect, and Ginter make their way to Montreal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 14, 2003 Share Posted January 14, 2003 Pitching and defense win championships. Our 3B for 2000 was Herbert Perry, but no way am I going to trade Crede for Vazquez. Look at that BAA rise! With the Sox the only team pursuing COlon heavily, don't be surprised if Stewart, RHP prospect, and Ginter make their way to Montreal. Don't be surprised if Boston makes one last attempt at that cost then  I'd atleast give them something of value...hell, give them Liefer....atleast he'll get a shot to start them. If he doesn't start in Montreal, he'll finally figure out that he's not much better than a bench player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 14, 2003 Author Share Posted January 14, 2003 Pitching and defense win championships. Our 3B for 2000 was Herbert Perry, but no way am I going to trade Crede for Vazquez. Look at that BAA rise! With the Sox the only team pursuing COlon heavily, don't be surprised if Stewart, RHP prospect, and Ginter make their way to Montreal. I'm with ya on that Cerb. To be honest, Vazquez is a very similar pitcher to Jon Garland imo.  I still don't see fabulous stuff out of Garland, but he really seems to be developing nicely. I know everyone, scouts and all, rave about this kid, and I never thought he'd be for real, but its looking like I was wrong and I sure hope I am.  The key was, Jon stopped trying to overpower everyone and thats when his ball had nasty sinking action.  Still, I'd deal West and a prospect for Vazquez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndyce Posted January 15, 2003 Share Posted January 15, 2003 Pitching and defense win championships. Our 3B for 2000 was Herbert Perry, but no way am I going to trade Crede for Vazquez. Look at that BAA rise! With the Sox the only team pursuing COlon heavily, don't be surprised if Stewart, RHP prospect, and Ginter make their way to Montreal. I'm with ya on that Cerb. To be honest, Vazquez is a very similar pitcher to Jon Garland imo.  I still don't see fabulous stuff out of Garland, but he really seems to be developing nicely. I know everyone, scouts and all, rave about this kid, and I never thought he'd be for real, but its looking like I was wrong and I sure hope I am.  The key was, Jon stopped trying to overpower everyone and thats when his ball had nasty sinking action.  Still, I'd deal West and a prospect for Vazquez. i dont think vasquez and garland are very alike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Posted January 15, 2003 Share Posted January 15, 2003 The difference is Vasquez is a lot better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac9001 Posted January 15, 2003 Share Posted January 15, 2003 The difference is Vasquez is a lot better. The difference is at age 22 Vazquez was 5-15 with a 6.06 ERA, while Garland was 12-12 with a 4.58 ERA. He might be better now, but not for long. If the Sox's want Vazquez, they should offer Stewart or West, with Willie Harris + crappy prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 15, 2003 Author Share Posted January 15, 2003 I'm not saying offer Garland for Vazquez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndyce Posted January 15, 2003 Share Posted January 15, 2003 i didnt mean one was necessarily better than the other. I was talking technique-wise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurcieOne Posted January 15, 2003 Share Posted January 15, 2003 The difference is Vasquez is a lot better. The difference is at age 22 Vazquez was 5-15 with a 6.06 ERA, while Garland was 12-12 with a 4.58 ERA. He might be better now, but not for long. If the Sox's want Vazquez, they should offer Stewart or West, with Willie Harris + crappy prospect. Thank you mac......... Â Garland rules.......all else parrishes before him. Â Jon Garland "Sinker extordinaire" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac9001 Posted January 15, 2003 Share Posted January 15, 2003 Thank you mac......... Â Garland rules.......all else parrishes before him. Â Jon Garland "Sinker extordinaire" Damn straight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted January 15, 2003 Share Posted January 15, 2003 Why oh why can't we trade nobodies for somebodies like most good teams do. They want to get rid of Colon. Give them 3 minor league prospects who suck. Nobody with a name. I hope everybody boycotts the sox if the trade you suggest goes through. Asinine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted January 15, 2003 Share Posted January 15, 2003 Why oh why can't we trade nobodies for somebodies like most good teams do. They want to get rid of Colon. Give them 3 minor league prospects who suck. Nobody with a name. I hope everybody boycotts the sox if the trade you suggest goes through. Asinine. have you ever met our gm??? lol.. you have to ask.......each day is like a curious george adventure with kw.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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