Butter Parque Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 From watching him last night, I realized that this guy has closer stuff. I wouldn't mind seeing him come out of the bullpen in the lte innings for us. He could be a productive closer. The only problem is, is that he seems to give up the home-run ball too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 So could Dan Wright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 From watching him last night, I realized that this guy has closer stuff. I wouldn't mind seeing him come out of the bullpen in the lte innings for us. He could be a productive closer. The only problem is, is that he seems to give up the home-run ball too much. your right he does have closer stuff and also he can throw strikes and thats all u want from a closer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quade36 Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 His fastball is in the high 80's low 90's. Thats not closer speeds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 His fastball is in the high 80's low 90's. Thats not closer speeds. Joe Borowski didn't have closer stuff, and look how many times last year he got the job done. Ditto for Rocky Biddle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 Joe Borowski didn't have closer stuff, and look how many times last year he got the job done. Ditto for Rocky Biddle. yeah and borowski has had more that 20 saves in a row now seems to be pretty successful to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 Are you sure you aren't looking at this issue simply from the fact he gave up 4 homers and didn't make it past the 5th? He may have been fairly effective for 3 innings, but that doesn't mean you assume he can be a closer. He has been groomed as a starter and one game even with 4 homers allowed is not a reason to now assume he can or should close games or just be sent to the bullpen. I almost think you are saying he should be punished? I know I am probably reading to much into the post but let's let the kind have at least one more chance to show what he can do. If he isn't ready look at Rausch, Cotts, Grilli or Munoz. I just don't want the Sox dragging this out though if the rookie falters. If we are going to win the championship we need a 5th starter to be successful now and not later after losing a half-dozen games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quade36 Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 uh, Borowski= bad, even cub fans would say so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 Are you sure you aren't looking at this issue simply from the fact he gave up 4 homers and didn't make it past the 5th? He may have been fairly effective for 3 innings, but that doesn't mean you assume he can be a closer. He has been groomed as a starter and one game even with 4 homers allowed is not a reason to now assume he can or should close games or just be sent to the bullpen. I almost think you are saying he should be punished? I know I am probably reading to much into the post but let's let the kind have at least one more chance to show what he can do. If he isn't ready look at Rausch, Cotts, Grilli or Munoz. I just don't want the Sox dragging this out though if the rookie falters. If we are going to win the championship we need a 5th starter to be successful now and not later after losing a half-dozen games. i was just saying he does have good enough stuff to be a closer, and no i personally do not think he should be punished i mean it was his first major league outing of his career he deserves at least two to three more outing to prove if he has what it takes to be the fifth starter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wong & Owens Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 His fastball is in the high 80's low 90's. Thats not closer speeds. That's a myth. All of these guys close games without blazing fastballs: Foulke, Hoffman, Isringhausen, Guardado, Cordero, Borowski, Smoltz, Herges, Valverde, Rivera, Graves, Mesa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 i was just saying he does have good enough stuff to be a closer, and no i personally do not think he should be punished i mean it was his first major league outing of his career he deserves at least two to three more outing to prove if he has what it takes to be the fifth starter I hear you and respect your opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 His fastball is in the high 80's low 90's. Thats not closer speeds. For example Kyle Farnsworth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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