Soxfest Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 This thread is now DOA. :fthecubs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 This thread is now DOA. :fthecubs Nope part, if not all, of this deal will still happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 Nope part, if not all, of this deal will still happen. Where did you here that , I hope both deals happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flippedoutpunk Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 Nope part, if not all, of this deal will still happen. I like this deal a lot better than the Olivo/Garcia deal. Maggs is as good as gone anyways, and Rauch? Who cares. But olivo, and reed? Thats our future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 Where did you here that , I hope both deals happen. KW said that the Garcia deal does not preclude him from making any other trades in the future. I don't like the Garcia until we make some more moves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmmmbeeer Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 This deal (not the Marte part) in addition to the Garcia deal would absolutely solidify the Sox as a WS contender, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 This deal (not the Marte part) in addition to the Garcia deal would absolutely solidify the Sox as a WS contender, IMO. Marte part? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Showtime Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 Marte part? Levine reported that the Braves we're "looking" at Marte. Doesn't mean he's in the talks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Showtime Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 *bump* Â So folks aren't totally confused as to all of this talk about other names. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 *bump*Â So folks aren't totally confused as to all of this talk about other names. I think it's funny that you had to bump a thread two hours after the last post was made. Â That's what trading for the AL leader in ERA does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Showtime Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 I think it's funny that you had to bump a thread two hours after the last post was made. That's what trading for the AL leader in ERA does. I was talking to Jason and said I couldn't believe it was half way down on the 2nd page, would've been on the 3rd page by morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxin' Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 I leave for one weekend and I miss all of this. Wow, great news to come home to. If we could have a rotation of Loaiza, Buehrle, Garcia, Ortiz, and Garland that would be so sweet. And then a GG CF, I would have an orgasim. Even if we lose Maggs, Rowand would do just fine in RF IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 (edited) BUMP again, found this  The Braves indeed inquired about White Sox outfielder Magglio Ordonez, but now that the Sox have landed Freddy Garcia, Chicago doesn't need Braves righthander Russ Ortiz. A straight-up Ordonez-for-Andruw Jones deal would not interest the Sox unless the Braves paid a portion of the $39 million that Jones is owed over the next three seasons. Jones, 27, appears in decline offensively, and the Sox can find better ways to spend $13 million per season. The Braves could move J.D. Drew to center if they acquired Ordonez. Another, perhaps more likely, option would be for them to flip Ordonez to another club. Both Ordonez and Drew will be free agents at the end of the season. . . .  And 7000 posts for me! Edited June 28, 2004 by DBAH0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 Well, what if the deal was Jones/Smoltz for Magglio/Rauch. I don't know if the Braves would do this, but if I'm the Sox, you get Jones for a few years, get a closer for this year (I know Shingo is awesome, but wow, Smoltz) and well frankly its just an interesting scenario. Â I do know one thing, I really was liking the idea of having Andruw Jones in CF for the next few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 IMO.. Ortiz>Shoey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 Well, what if the deal was Jones/Smoltz for Magglio/Rauch. I don't know if the Braves would do this, but if I'm the Sox, you get Jones for a few years, get a closer for this year (I know Shingo is awesome, but wow, Smoltz) and well frankly its just an interesting scenario. I do know one thing, I really was liking the idea of having Andruw Jones in CF for the next few years. I'd do it in a sec. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 I was talking to Ian on aim and he mentioned that someone posted something on WSI from a radio station out there.  They reported at the end of the Braves game that this deal could happen within the week: Maggs and pitching prospects for Jones/Ortiz/Cruz  Now remember this was before the Sox had acquired Garcia, but I'd do this deal assuming Bmac isn't a part of the trade.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 Why do we want to trade Maggs? Maybe if we get Smoltz. I don't see why we would want Jones whose numbers have dropped and Ortiz who walks everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 BUMP again, found this The Braves indeed inquired about White Sox outfielder Magglio Ordonez, but now that the Sox have landed Freddy Garcia, Chicago doesn't need Braves righthander Russ Ortiz. A straight-up Ordonez-for-Andruw Jones deal would not interest the Sox unless the Braves paid a portion of the $39 million that Jones is owed over the next three seasons. Jones, 27, appears in decline offensively, and the Sox can find better ways to spend $13 million per season. The Braves could move J.D. Drew to center if they acquired Ordonez. Another, perhaps more likely, option would be for them to flip Ordonez to another club. Both Ordonez and Drew will be free agents at the end of the season. . . .  And 7000 posts for me! How can a 27 yr old be in decline??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 Maggs and pitching prospects for Jones/Ortiz/Cruz Why would Atlanta do that? Maybe it is just me, but if KW knows in his heart of hearts that he is not going to be able to resign Mags, I would do that ASAP!! I just dont get why Atlanta would dump those 3 guys for just Maggs and a pitching prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 Why would Atlanta do that? Maybe it is just me, but if KW knows in his heart of hearts that he is not going to be able to resign Mags, I would do that ASAP!! I just dont get why Atlanta would dump those 3 guys for just Maggs and a pitching prospect. Who knows, but maybe Atlanta has some other deals up their sleeves. You never know. Thats what was reported in Atlanta and it was before the Garcia deal. All I know is I'd jump all over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 Who knows, but maybe Atlanta has some other deals up their sleeves. You never know. Thats what was reported in Atlanta and it was before the Garcia deal. All I know is I'd jump all over it. This deal orginiated IN atlanta? hmmm.... now that is interesting  I'd do it without even thinking about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 This deal orginiated IN atlanta? hmmm.... now that is interesting I'd do it without even thinking about it Who knows who the pitching prospects are. It could be Munoz and Rauch or Rauch and Diaz which could make some sense. They get some young arms that can pitch in the majors now and Maggs whose really good offensively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 I was just reading in on an Atlanta Braves message board that Boston is shopping Nomar. I am wondering if the White Sox/Red Sox/Braves can work out a 3-way that would send Maggs to Atlanta, then on to Boston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 You novices. It doesn't matter whether you are a LH or RH bat. What matters is how well you do against RH & LH pitchers. Â The SOX are hitting 961 OPS vs LH, 807 vs RH. Andruw Jones 856 vs RH, 679 vs LH. Â Translation: We have plenty of guys on the team that can hit LH. We have few guys on the team that can hit RH. Â Andruw Jones Defense & bat vs RH = more SOX wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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