Balta1701 2,919 Posted June 13, 2005 ESPN.Com's sportsnation is running a "Rank the MLB Managers" survey. You can find it...and put Ozzie #1...by Clicking here. Current rankings (top 15) 1. Bobby Cox 2. La Russa 3. Torre 4. Scioscia 5. Frank Robinson 6. Gardenhire 7. Buck Showalter 8. Jack McKeon 9. Ozzie! 10. Terry Francona 11. Sweet Lou 12. Felipe Alou 13. Dusty Baker 14. Bruce Bochy 15. Jim Tracy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
southsider17 0 Posted June 13, 2005 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jun 13, 2005 -> 03:45 PM) ESPN.Com's sportsnation is running a "Rank the MLB Managers" survey. You can find it...and put Ozzie #1...by Clicking here. Current rankings (top 15) 1. Bobby Cox 2. La Russa 3. Torre 4. Scioscia 5. Frank Robinson 6. Gardenhire 7. Buck Showalter 8. Jack McKeon 9. Ozzie! 10. Terry Francona 11. Sweet Lou 12. Felipe Alou 13. Dusty Baker 14. Bruce Bochy 15. Jim Tracy Oddly enough, I had him 9th as well. Except I put McKeon behind him and Pinella in front of him (I have Gardenhire and Cox 1 & 2). I luv Ozzie but he still needs to build up a track record. So far so good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChWRoCk2 0 Posted June 13, 2005 i have gardenhire number one and la russa number two with cox following them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soxhawks 0 Posted June 13, 2005 seriously i have to say lloyd mcclendon has to be up there, he has the pirates at .500 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChWRoCk2 0 Posted June 13, 2005 QUOTE(soxhawks @ Jun 13, 2005 -> 04:11 PM) seriously i have to say lloyd mcclendon has to be up there, he has the pirates at .500 you cant base it just on this year, you have to look at years before that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KevHead0881 1 Posted June 13, 2005 (edited) I'd say that having Ozzie at #9 is about right. You need a few division titles to be considered a top tier manager, and Ozzie's got a ways to go to get there, but I'd certainly take Ozzie over more than half the managers in the league, without question. Partly cause I think there are a lot of s***ty managers out there, partly because I think Ozzie's gonna be a damn good one. Edited June 13, 2005 by KevHead0881 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wedge 0 Posted June 13, 2005 Somebody give me a history lesson, what did Frank Robinson ever do? If you're going on past history, I hate to say it, but Dusty Baker has a tremendous career record and deserves better than 13th. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChWRoCk2 0 Posted June 13, 2005 QUOTE(Wedge @ Jun 13, 2005 -> 04:19 PM) Somebody give me a history lesson, what did Frank Robinson ever do? If you're going on past history, I hate to say it, but Dusty Baker has a tremendous career record and deserves better than 13th. not much hes just a big name, i guess a lot of credit is given to him for having to go through the troubles of playing with no set home stadium till now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
southsider17 0 Posted June 13, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(Wedge @ Jun 13, 2005 -> 04:19 PM) If you're going on past history, I hate to say it, but Dusty Baker has a tremendous career record and deserves better than 13th. I know. But I just ................. can't ................. do it. :banghead Edited June 13, 2005 by southsider17 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SoxFan1 2 Posted June 13, 2005 1st place team has a 1st place coach which deserves a 1st place ranking...........on MOST days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peanut33tillman 4 Posted June 13, 2005 torre 3?? hell no with that talent its absolutely ridiculous he cant even keep that ballclub at .500 pathetic....truly is otherwise i agree for the most part Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KevHead0881 1 Posted June 13, 2005 QUOTE(peanut33tillman @ Jun 13, 2005 -> 09:50 PM) torre 3?? hell no with that talent its absolutely ridiculous he cant even keep that ballclub at .500 pathetic....truly is otherwise i agree for the most part Joe Torre has won a bunch of championships. Talent or no talent, you have to respect that. Hell, I never thought much of Phil Jackson as a coach, but you can't ignore the 9 rings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cubs Suck23 0 Posted June 13, 2005 (edited) I think the top mgr in baseball is Mike Scoscia followed by Bobby Cox. I would have Ozzie about the 8th best Edited June 13, 2005 by Cubs Suck23 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peanut33tillman 4 Posted June 13, 2005 QUOTE(KevHead0881 @ Jun 13, 2005 -> 04:52 PM) Joe Torre has won a bunch of championships. Talent or no talent, you have to respect that. Hell, I never thought much of Phil Jackson as a coach, but you can't ignore the 9 rings. if were ranking managers based on THIS SEASON which is what i thought...u cant possibly see him as numero 3..but ur opinion i wont argue it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KevHead0881 1 Posted June 13, 2005 QUOTE(peanut33tillman @ Jun 13, 2005 -> 10:02 PM) if were ranking managers based on THIS SEASON which is what i thought...u cant possibly see him as numero 3..but ur opinion i wont argue it For this season, yes, I'd say Torre hasn't been up to snuff. Still not sure if the poll is in regards to this year, or overall. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WSox30 0 Posted June 13, 2005 I'm surprised at how low Jim Tracy is considering the consistency he has brought to Los Angeles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
southsider2k5 5,835 Posted June 14, 2005 If Ozzie can repeat this years preformance he will shoot up that list, but as is now, upper middle of the pack seems about right to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Texsox 653 Posted June 14, 2005 Without reviewing all the managers and actually sitting down and ranking them, I consider Ozzie a middle of the pack coach who still makes rookie mistakes both on the field and off. I didn't think Manuel deserved that much blame for the Sox failures and certainly don't believe that Ozzie deserves to be higher up because the team is winning. Just telling the team to turn up the music when they loosse, isn't enough. I was happy when they picked him and agree he is going to be a top 5 someday if he can learn from his mistakes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Balta1701 2,919 Posted June 14, 2005 QUOTE(WSox30 @ Jun 13, 2005 -> 03:15 PM) I'm surprised at how low Jim Tracy is considering the consistency he has brought to Los Angeles. Getting the LA Times every morning as I do, I'm not sure that the people around here are that big of fans of Jim Tracy. He had a good year last year, but that was as much due to Beltre and Gagne as anything else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
knightni 227 Posted June 14, 2005 Ozzie moved up to 8th. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
