SoxFan1 Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 Perez has nasty stuff. McClendon and Pittsburgh have done s*** for him. I think a change of scenerey where he is really wanted and supported would helo him a lot and propel him to the next level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 I wouldn't be against Perez in 06; but, IMO he is too much of a risk for this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 QUOTE(knightni @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 12:19 PM) I wouldn't be against Perez in 06; but, IMO he is too much of a risk for this year. Â exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 05:18 PM) Perez has nasty stuff. McClendon and Pittsburgh have done s*** for him. I think a change of scenerey where he is really wanted and supported would helo him a lot and propel him to the next level. Â Not only that but AL hitters havent seen his slider or slurve dont know what it is but its downright nasty and thats what he was last year down right nasty. Id kill to have Perez on our team where I think he could be a star. Â Not only a change of scenery but being here would help especially since all the latin influence with Ozzie and the gang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 12:21 PM) Not only a change of scenery but being here would help especially since all the latin influence with Ozzie and the gang. Â just like the cuban influence has helped Contreras' control issues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 QUOTE(knightni @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 12:19 PM) I wouldn't be against Perez in 06; but, IMO he is too much of a risk for this year. remember talking about perez the other day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayitaintso Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 11:22 AM) just like the cuban influence has helped Contreras' control issues? It somewhat did the first 2 months of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayitaintso Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 It seems to me that whenever El Duque gets hurt or is away from the team, Jose seems to pitch worse. But when he is here, Jose pitches a little better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 05:22 PM) just like the cuban influence has helped Contreras' control issues? Â Â He has been a lot better than he has in years passed. And Perez is already ahead of where Contreras is... look at Perez last year. I think Contreras problem is in Cuba the guys would swing at balls and here not so much. Perez on the other hand is young and all of his professional career has been in the states so he can attack hitters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 QUOTE(rangercal @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 01:23 PM) remember talking about perez the other day? I do.  In fact, I posted it in the other trade thread.  http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?sh...ndpost&p=767963 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 QUOTE(knightni @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 05:32 PM) I do. In fact, I posted it in the other trade thread.  http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?sh...ndpost&p=767963  I talked about Perez all last year , I remeber in the offseason Ken Rosenthal had some trade rumor connecting Perez with us... That would of been awesome although I think Garland was involved  Also watching Perez reminds me that we arent the only ones who got ripped off by the pirates.... Perez and Bay for Giles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayitaintso Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 11:18 AM) Wow, I guess we're building for the future now. If you want a hothead who can't find the strike zone or stay healthy this year, you're crazy. Yes, that deal might look good next year, but unfortunately, I would like the White Sox to try to win the World Series this year. I don't want to build for the future. PS you'll be watching basketball a lot sooner if we depend on Oliver Perez to be a contributor on this team; like say after the first round of the playoffs. Wasn't Carl a hothead and AJ a "cancer" before they came to the southside? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 QUOTE(beck72 @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 08:42 AM) I'd be weary of letting Harris go as he still could be good insurance in case Tad gets hurt this year. Â Â If you got visquel then Uribe could play second if Iguchi goes down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 If you got visquel then Uribe could play second if Iguchi goes down <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Â have you heard something I missed, or is this just a general comment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 QUOTE(JimH @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 12:49 PM) have you heard something I missed, or is this just a general comment? Â Â No just reading the thread, there was a rumor earlier that the sox were looking at visquel and schmidt. Nothing imminent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 Perez is such a talent that no one knows about because of where he plays. At 100% and in a town lik Chicago that would embrace him AND with a pitching coach like Coop ANDa veteran like El Duque to help guide him, he would become a star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 I bet now that nothing will happen until after the AS break. They have to do something with the Gload situation, they've apparantly been burning the midnite oil trying to figure out what to do. Â Seems to me one move will lead to another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 QUOTE(JimH @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 12:51 PM) I bet now that nothing will happen until after the AS break. They have to do something with the Gload situation, they've apparantly been burning the midnite oil trying to figure out what to do. Seems to me one move will lead to another.   well I don't think they need to over analyze this thing. Perez and harris both suck. can't be that hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 Guys. Perez would love it here.  It's a long, long shot to happen but adding another lefty in our rotation would make it.  1. MB 2. Freddy 3. Jon 4. Oliver Perez 5. Jose  Do you guys understand the fact that everybody is below 30 except Jose?  Perez wants to win just as bad as the rest of the club and he'd get along so well in Chicago because he's such a competitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank the Tank 35 Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 Ollie Perez is a fantastic talent. He's on two of my fantasy teams this year, so I've taken special interest in his struggles this year. He usually plays ball in the winter leagues during the offseason but did not do so last year at the request of the Pirates. Many believe that change in his "preseason" routine messed him up, so he started off the season pitching like he was going through extended spring training. He then reeled off a couple excellent starts. He then had a couple poor starts (one to the Yanks, who can blame him?), and he kicked something in the clubhouse and broke his toe. I dunno if he'd be able to help the team this year or not. But if he's available, get him anyway. He'd be valuable in some capacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 Isn't he injured??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 QUOTE(rangercal @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 05:07 PM) Like Omars Career #'s 5 years past his prime are not selective? I just gave ESPN's career numbers for both guys vs those probably playoff teams.  As far as "past his prime", Omar's doing fine this year, like last year. And should be OK for 2006 as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 Yeah, he went psycho and hurt his toe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atrain081 Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 Does anyone know anything about the list of teams Roger Clemens will accept trades to? I was sure it was only New York, but the Cardinals say that Clemens will accept a trade there as well as a few other teams. I wonder if the Sox are on that list ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 No, the Sox are not on that list, so we'd need special dispensation from the Rocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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