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an out occurs in that situation when either the ball beats him back to the bag or he is tagged out.  neither had happened.  with his speed he couldve at least forced a throw to third.  we all know stranger things have happened.  ask cub fans.

Ozuna was pretty much dead-to-rights. Calling for the squeeze was the mistake.

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QUOTE(SSH2005 @ May 7, 2006 -> 12:44 PM)
Ozuna was pretty much dead-to-rights.  Calling for the squeeze was the mistake.

 

he is dead to rights when he is out. look this is a very little thing but definitely something that ozzie will address to his team. he doesnt overlook even these little things. at least that is my take on how baseball should be played and the type of manager ozzie is.

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QUOTE(SSH2005 @ May 7, 2006 -> 07:44 PM)
Ozuna was pretty much dead-to-rights.  Calling for the squeeze was the mistake.

 

He has absolutely no chance in that situation. You might as well hope that the defense drops the ball then. I didn't like the call, but shockingly, I understand why Ozzie did it. Iguchi's normally a very good bunter.

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QUOTE(whitesoxmanager @ May 7, 2006 -> 07:47 PM)
he is dead to rights when he is out.  look this is a very little thing but definitely something that ozzie will address to his team.  he doesnt overlook even these little things.  at least that is my take on how baseball should be played and the type of manager ozzie is.

 

No offense manager, but you're wrong here. The last thing a runner on 3rd can do in that situation is be tentative. If the squeeze is called, it's either going to work or it's an easy, easy out.

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QUOTE(fathom @ May 7, 2006 -> 02:48 PM)
No offense manager, but you're wrong here.  The last thing a runner on 3rd can do in that situation is be tentative.  If the squeeze is called, it's either going to work or it's an easy, easy out.

That's exactly why it was a "suicide" and not a "saftey" squeeze.

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QUOTE(fathom @ May 7, 2006 -> 02:48 PM)
No offense manager, but you're wrong here.  The last thing a runner on 3rd can do in that situation is be tentative.  If the squeeze is called, it's either going to work or it's an easy, easy out.

Being tentative only makes it worse. If he doesn't go right away, he's caught in a pickle. Or he is tagged out.

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QUOTE(fathom @ May 7, 2006 -> 01:48 PM)
No offense manager, but you're wrong here.  The last thing a runner on 3rd can do in that situation is be tentative.  If the squeeze is called, it's either going to work or it's an easy, easy out.

 

No. He has a point. If Ozuna would have turned and sprinted back toward 3rd, the pitcher might have thrown the ball down the line. You have to make them make the play without just giving up on it.

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QUOTE(YASNY @ May 7, 2006 -> 02:52 PM)
No.  He has a point.  If Ozuna would have turned and sprinted back toward 3rd, the pitcher might have thrown the ball down the line.  You have to make them make the play without just giving up on it.

It all starts with the bunt.

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QUOTE(YASNY @ May 7, 2006 -> 07:52 PM)
No.  He has a point.  If Ozuna would have turned and sprinted back toward 3rd, the pitcher might have thrown the ball down the line.  You have to make them make the play without just giving up on it.

 

It's hard though to judge the ball off the bat. Ozuna is focusing just as much on the plate as he is to where the ball goes. By that time, he's so far down the line, he has no chance to get back. With all of his momentum heading towards home, by the time the pitcher catches it, Ozuna would still be 60 feet off of 3rd base.

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QUOTE(fathom @ May 7, 2006 -> 01:54 PM)
It's hard though to judge the ball off the bat.  Ozuna is focusing just as much on the plate as he is to where the ball goes.  By that time, he's so far down the line, he has no chance to get back.  With all of his momentum heading towards home, by the time the pitcher catches it, Ozuna would still be 60 feet off of 3rd base.

 

All that is true. But still, if he would have turned and sprinted back toward 3rd, that would have forced a throw instead of just a tag. Throwing errors do happen from time to time.

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