GoSox05 Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 You think right now Bobby Jenks is the best closer in Baseball? he's been really nasty this year. 39k/9bb. I've never seen Papplebom pitch so im not sure about him and I think Rivera has slowed down a little, but not much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 Pabelbon has been the best closer in baseball so far this year. BJ Ryan also has been better then Bobby but lately, Bobby has been as dominate as anyone. He's getting ahead of everyone, his velocity has fully returned and he's getting his curve over and because of that he's nearly unhittable right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 IMO, Nathan is the best. But Bobby cracks the Top 5... and possibly the Top 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevHead0881 Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 Its hard to argue that anybody has been better or as good as Papelbon, cause his stats are just plain sick. But Jenks has been simply awesome this year. Let me put it this way: I can't remember another Sox closer, with the possible exception of Thigpen in 1990, that I was more comfortable with coming into a game, no matter what the circumstance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 Papelbon has an era of 0.25. That is ridiculous. 1 ER allowed so far in 35.2 innings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 Papelbon, Rivera, Ryan, Jenks. In other words, Jenks is the best closer outside the AL East, but he'd be the 4th best one in that division....yikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 I'd say he's got to perform like this a bit longer to even enter the discussion. He's been very good lately, but he still hasn't really proved it over the long haul. IMO consistency is a very important factor in closer quality, and you can't make judgements off of only one year. He had kind of a rough April, and despite good periferal numbers he had a higher ERA in May. Obviously he's been lights out in June. If he keeps pitching like he has lately for the rest of the year, obviously he has to enter the discussion. Right now I think I'd go with B.J. Ryan. He was a dominant reliever the past two years and his numbers are ridiculous this year. Papelbon has also obviously been good, but I want to see him do it for at least a season and a half before I put him #1. Before his poor start to this season, I would have said Brad Lidge without hesitation. Rivera and Nathan are also still pitching very well. Honestly, outside of those guys, there aren't a whole lot of closers that are consistently dominant. Even guys like Francisco Rodriguez and Billy Wagner struggle for decent stretches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABearSoX Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 I'd take Jenks over Ryan anyday..... Wilbon was asked by TK who he would rather want papelbon or riveria.....he said Jenks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 I agree with you guys in that Bob has to do it well for a few more years to even have his name thrown in the discussion. But when ALL of his pitches are working, I'm not sure there is closer out there with better stuff. When the full arsenal is deployed, it's just sick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa1334 Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Jun 23, 2006 -> 10:41 AM) Papelbon, Rivera, Ryan, Jenks. In other words, Jenks is the best closer outside the AL East, but he'd be the 4th best one in that division....yikes. i'll take jenks over ryan and rivera any day. yea, rivera is one of the best ever and has all that postgame exp. but jenks has a ring too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 The important numbers are inside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UC76 Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 I think as long as Jenks is in the conversation of best closer in baseball, it's all good. Some other closer may be considered better by some, but as long as Bad Bobby gets the job done, it's nothing but someone's opinion, so who who cares. I think he has to be in the top 2-3 by now and he's getting better, IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 Ide take Jenks over any closer.. but it would have also been Lidge if he hadnt stumbled to start the season And no, not because hes on the White Sox, but because he throws 98-100+ gas and has NASTY breaking pitches.. his stuff is awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsoxs1 Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 Talking about about Best Closer's. Don't forget to Mention Turnbow from Milw. 21S, 32.1 Innings, 39K, 3.62 ERA He reminds me of Booby alot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 QUOTE(gsoxs1 @ Jun 23, 2006 -> 12:55 PM) Talking about about Best Closer's. Don't forget to Mention Turnbow from Milw. 21S, 32.1 Innings, 39K, 3.62 ERA He reminds me of Booby alot. Booby, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted June 23, 2006 Author Share Posted June 23, 2006 It seems like theres a new generation of closers going on right now. Some really good young closers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 QUOTE(Melissa1334 @ Jun 23, 2006 -> 12:11 PM) i'll take jenks over ryan and rivera any day. yea, rivera is one of the best ever and has all that postgame exp. but jenks has a ring too. I can go with taking Jenks over Ryan, especially since he's younger and cheaper.....but not Rivera. As for Turnbow, Turnbow AND Jenks were given away on waivers by the Angels, wonder how they feel about that right about now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 Here's my top 10 closers in baseball 1) Papelbon 2) Rivera 3) Ryan 4) K-Rod 5) Jenks ^^ 6) Nathan 7) Street 8) Hoffman 9) Turnbow 10) Isringhausen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 Is there any closer with better pure stuff than Jenks? Before answering, consider Jenks's known repitoire of pitches: 95-102 MPH Fastball 95-99 MPH Cutter 88-91 MPH Slider (I know he hit 96 with it last night, but unless I see that again, it's an abberation IMO) 82-88 MPH Curveball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 Whats Turnbow have? and when did the brew crew pick him up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiguy79 Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 Izzy is terrible, I don't think he cracks the upper half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 Also didn't Turnbow test possitive for roids? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 1.) Pap 2.) Ryan 3.) Nathan (10.00 K/BB) 4.) Rivera 5a.) Jenks 5b.) K-Rod 7.) Lidge 8.) Street 9.) Fuentes 10.) Otsuka 11.) Flash Gordon (he's been that good) 12.) Wagner 13.) Hoffman 14.) Ray 15.) Cordero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsoxs1 Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 Booby, eh? Its called a Typo. Deal with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 QUOTE(gsoxs1 @ Jun 23, 2006 -> 02:48 PM) Its called a Typo. Deal with it. Calm down there Mr. Typo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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