Rex Kickass Posted August 27, 2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 DL 5191 Lexington KY to Atlanta crashed just outside the Lexington airport this morning about 6 AM. This would consist of the biggest US aviation crash since November 2001 when a mainline American Airlines jet went down over Jamaica Bay, NY. http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/08/27/plane.crash/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldmember Posted August 27, 2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 sad. prayers go out to the victims' families... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 27, 2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 so sad... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted August 27, 2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 QUOTE(Rex Kicka** @ Aug 27, 2006 -> 08:59 AM) DL 5191 Lexington KY to Atlanta crashed just outside the Lexington airport this morning about 6 AM. This would consist of the biggest US aviation crash since November 2001 when a mainline American Airlines jet went down over Jamaica Bay, NY. http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/08/27/plane.crash/index.html This si why I drive everywhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted August 27, 2006 Author Share Posted August 27, 2006 So they are reporting that its probably pilot error related to using the wrong runway. The plane was scheduled to use runway 2-2 which is 7000 feet long, instead they used 2-6 which is half as long and too short for a CRJ 100. The plane did get briefly airborne but probably stalled out because it was moving too slowly for the angle of attack at which it was climbing. The plane crashed and most people probably survived the initial impact because the fuselage remained intact. However the fire that followed killed them quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted August 27, 2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 Sad. Just heard on the radio that a Joliet Jackhammer pitcher and his wife, WHO GOT MARRIED YESTERDAY, were killed on the plane. Awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Dixie Normus Posted August 28, 2006 Share Posted August 28, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(Rex Kicka** @ Aug 27, 2006 -> 12:19 PM) The plane did get briefly airborne but probably stalled out because it was moving too slowly for the angle of attack at which it was climbing. It is called ground effect. When the nose of the plane pitches up, the effective thrust of the engines is greater because of the resistance of the ground on the exhaust of the engines. As the plane climbs, the additional lift is dissipated and there is not enough air flowing over the top of the wings to maintain flight. The result is a stall, as you say. This would explain the impact site being so far down range from the end of R26. There appears to be some other contributing factors in that the lights on R-26 might not have been operational since a recent re pavement project on the 2-2 runway was completed. The 2-6 was in poor condition and also had a crest at the far end limiting the pilots visual of the end of the runway. There is a severe drop off at the end of the runway which may have contributed to the pilots decision to attempt flight rather than abort take off. In order to taxi to position on 2-2, you cross the 2-6. It is surprisingly rare that pilots confirm the correct heading once in position with the cockpit compass. The 2-6 runway ground marker is on the right side of the aircraft as you make a left hand turn to take position. It is also rare that ATC visually confirm the correct runway. Rumor (I stress) has it that the lone survivor is the first officer. I am not sure that 'lucky' would be a correct way to describe his situation right now if that is true. Not that he is not fortunate to be alive but I can not imagine the guilt that will rack his soul for all his days if what is being said turns out to be factual. Regardless, tragic all the way around. Edit - Apparently the rumor of the FO being the sole survivor has been confirmed. Edited August 28, 2006 by My Dixie Normus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted August 28, 2006 Author Share Posted August 28, 2006 Apparently, the plane may not have ever left the ground. The signs point to the plane overshooting the runway and bursting into flames as a result of the impact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewashed in '05 Posted August 28, 2006 Share Posted August 28, 2006 This is an awful tragedy. My prayers go out to the families of the people onboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Dixie Normus Posted August 28, 2006 Share Posted August 28, 2006 QUOTE(Rex Kicka** @ Aug 27, 2006 -> 11:48 PM) Apparently, the plane may not have ever left the ground. The signs point to the plane overshooting the runway and bursting into flames as a result of the impact. It got off the ground. The impact site was more than a 1/4 mile from the end of the runway over a fence, several banks of trees. There is apparently damage to the fence and to the tops of the trees but there is an impact skid, then a break and a second impact site near the final resting point of the fuselage. They got up. But obvioulsy not very high and not very long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 28, 2006 Share Posted August 28, 2006 Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted August 28, 2006 Share Posted August 28, 2006 QUOTE(Brian @ Aug 27, 2006 -> 06:28 PM) Sad. Just heard on the radio that a Joliet Jackhammer pitcher and his wife, WHO GOT MARRIED YESTERDAY, were killed on the plane. Awful. Wow.. I just met this guy and his fiance (at the time) 2 Sunday's ago at the Jackhammer's game. How incredibly sad. Prayers for all the victims and their families. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 -- FAA acknowledges it violated staffing policies with only one air traffic controller on duty at airport when Comair jet crashed Sunday, killing 49 people. Watch CNN or log on to http://CNN.com and watch FREE video, plus live, commercial-free video with CNN Pipeline. CNN - The most trusted name in news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted August 29, 2006 Author Share Posted August 29, 2006 But that probably wouldn't have mattered with this particular crash. Most of the time, towers do not make visual confirmation of planes using the right runway to take off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHAMBARONS Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 QUOTE(Brian @ Aug 27, 2006 -> 04:28 PM) Sad. Just heard on the radio that a Joliet Jackhammer pitcher and his wife, WHO GOT MARRIED YESTERDAY, were killed on the plane. Awful. He was Diamondback pitcher Brandon Webb's best friend and Webb was scheduled to be at his Wedding but had to be in Phoenix to pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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