Guest wsc425 Posted June 22, 2003 Share Posted June 22, 2003 White Sox Free Agents 2003: Jose Valentin-Earns 5,000,000 dollars in 2003, and has an option to exercise of 5 million for 2004 if he reaches 575 ABs. Frank Thomas- 2004, Dual option $6.0M player/$8.0M team Tom Gordon-Earns 1.4 million + 500,000 dollars in 2003. Rick White-In 2003 he earns $0.6 million. In 2004 there is a team option $1.3M or $0.15M team buyout. He can earn up to $150,000 in bonuses. Bartolo Colon-In 2003 he earns 8.25 million. In 2004 he is a free agent. Tony Graffanino-In 2003 he earned 0.625 million dollars. In 2004 he is a free agent. Esteban Loazia-In 2003 he earned 0.5 million dollars. In 2004 he has a 3.5 million dollar option to exercise or a 0.15 million dollar buyout. Arbitration Hearings-Harris, Buerhle, Wunsch, Marte, Glover, Lee, Jimenez Free Agents that White Sox could afford that they might consider: Jeff Suppan, Robert Person, Dustin Hermansen, Antonio Osuna, Ricardo Rincon, Felix Heredia, Scott Eyre, Jason Johnson, John Halama, Michael Barrett, Carlos Beltran My prediction for 2004 Starting Pitchers Colon, Buehrle, Loazia, (New Aquisition), Garland Relief Pitchers Glover, Koch, Marte, Wunsch, Rauch, Wright, Stewart 1b-Konerko 2b-Miles ss-Jimenez 3b-Crede c-Olivo lf-Lee cf-Harris rf-Ordonez dh-Thomas Bench: Graffanino, Daubach, Barrett, Rios Any of your predictions appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Fainter Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 It's a bit early to begin speculating on our roster make up for next year, but there is one name who I think will be gone that no one ever mentions: Glover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Fainter Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 Where is our 40 man roster? I can't find it. Tks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 If Jimenez is the SS, it's going to be a long year. He doesn't have enough range to play short. Â Harris won't be the centerfielder, Borchard will be. Â PK could be moved if there are any takers in the offseason. Â Rauch could crack the rotation, I don't see the Sox using him in a relief role. Â I like Munoz for a bullpen spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wsc425 Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 It's a bit early to begin speculating on our roster make up for next year, but there is one name who I think will be gone that no one ever mentions:Â Glover. I agree, as he is not consistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wsc425 Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 Where is our 40 man roster? I can't find it. Tks. http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb...lub_context=cws For you, Jim Fainter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wsc425 Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 If Jimenez is the SS, it's going to be a long year. He doesn't have enough range to play short. Harris won't be the centerfielder, Borchard will be.  PK could be moved if there are any takers in the offseason.  Rauch could crack the rotation, I don't see the Sox using him in a relief role.  I like Munoz for a bullpen spot.  Well Jose may not be going anywhere because no one is going to pay 5 million and because of his loyalty to this team.  Borchard is a corner outfielder at best.  PK isn't going to be moved, he's a KW guy. The only guy we could get for him is Todd Hundley. (Dan Evans) would just trade salary.  Rauch could be in the rotation, you are right there.  Have you seen Munoz at AAA this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 White Sox Free Agents 2003: Jose Valentin-Earns 5,000,000 dollars in 2003, and has an option to exercise of 5 million for 2004 if he reaches 575 ABs. Frank Thomas- 2004, Dual option $6.0M player/$8.0M team Tom Gordon-Earns 1.4 million + 500,000 dollars in 2003. Rick White-In 2003 he earns $0.6 million. In 2004 there is a team option $1.3M or $0.15M team buyout. He can earn up to $150,000 in bonuses. Bartolo Colon-In 2003 he earns 8.25 million. In 2004 he is a free agent. Tony Graffanino-In 2003 he earned 0.625 million dollars. In 2004 he is a free agent. Esteban Loazia-In 2003 he earned 0.5 million dollars. In 2004 he has a 3.5 million dollar option to exercise or a 0.15 million dollar buyout. Arbitration Hearings-Harris, Buerhle, Wunsch, Marte, Glover, Lee, Jimenez Free Agents that White Sox could afford that they might consider: Jeff Suppan, Robert Person, Dustin Hermansen, Antonio Osuna, Ricardo Rincon, Felix Heredia, Scott Eyre, Jason Johnson, John Halama, Michael Barrett, Carlos Beltran My prediction for 2004 Starting Pitchers Colon, Buehrle, Loazia, (New Aquisition), Garland Relief Pitchers Glover, Koch, Marte, Wunsch, Rauch, Wright, Stewart 1b-Konerko 2b-Miles ss-Jimenez 3b-Crede c-Olivo lf-Lee cf-Harris rf-Ordonez dh-Thomas Bench: Graffanino, Daubach, Barrett, Rios Any of your predictions appreciated. To even consider doing this is insane. In a month and a half, we could either have built up for a pennant run, or we could have traded everyone away in a fire sale. Regardless, I could almost guarantee you that you will see a few new faces in a White Sox uniform within that time period of a month and a half. If we are serious about a pennant run, White and Glover will both be traded and we'll bring in some better bullpen pitchers, you might see another solid starter come in, and there is a definite possibility that someone may come in to help the offense(though if Wee Willie Harris can keep hitting and doing a good job leading off, he may be just what we need). If we have a fire sale, you could see CLee, Jose, Konerko, Gordon, White, Wunsch, Koch, Colon, Loaiza, Daubach, Graffanino, Maggs, Sandy, Rios, and others gone in a youth movement(though I personally feel that Colon, Loaiza, and Buehrle will be apart of the youth movement, regardless of their age). I'd really love to get rid of DJ(no range, bad baserunner, mediocre speed at best, no heart), but that may be a pipe dream. Â You can talk about this in September, when moves are offically done, unless we flat out release a guy(such as with K-layton last year), and then it becomes sane to talk about. Â And I have a question....have YOU seen Munoz at AAA? I can't remember which ballpark it is, but there is one of our minor league ballparks that is a hitter's utopia...and I'm thinking it might be the AAA ballpark, but someone will have to help me on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndyce Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 I think we need to get rid of Jiminez, Jose, CLee, and Konerko anyways possible, especially Konerko with his bad hip. I think it would be an excellent move to sign Luis Castillo as 2B. he would give us an excellent leadoff guy, or if harris keeps hitting a #2 guy to get on base for Maggs and Thomas at 1b. Thomas has to stay at first base the rest of his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermaggs Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 Yes! this "core" KW identified after 2000 has definately proved to be dysfunctional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 I'd definitely like us to get a new 2b, ss, cf combination. Too bad we don't have angel berroa and Beltran of the Royals. Â Who'd have thought Paulie would be washed up a year after last year? Now he's nothing. Â I'd like to see us keep Crede, get rid of ss, 2b and Paulie. Keep Frank. Keep Olivo and let all other catchers depart. Keep Maggs and Lee and get rid of all other outfielders. Keep most of our pitchers and take our chances there. Though it looks like we need a closer again and I wouldn't mind seeing Gordon depart and of course White. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Fainter Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 There are several minor leaguers coming up that will have to be protected on next year's 40 man roster or else be lost (Miles, Stumm, et al), but it looks as if there are plenty of players on the current 40 man roster that can be exposed to free agency without a big risk of losing them. I just wish I trusted the man in charge more that I do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 Yes! this "core" KW identified after 2000 has definately proved to be dysfunctional. Is that the REAL supermaggs? Â How the hell you doing man? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxplosion Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 Already making predictions? Geez, yet again I agree with wsf about you, this IS insane! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 I want that Japanesse SS. that is going to be a free agent after this season.. And is Carlos Beltran much to ask from Unlce Jerry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Fainter Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 Signing Beltran = loss of high draft choice, $8-10 MM/yr, and sleeping wlith Scott Boros. Won't happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 Signing Beltran = loss of high draft choice, $8-10 MM/yr, and sleeping wlith Scott Boros. Won't happen. I know it was just Wishful Thinking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 Have you seen Munoz at AAA this year? Don't get lost in Munoz numbers. He is still very much a prospect. The dissection of his numbers and corresponding discussion has already been had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 I have heard nothing but great things about that Japanese SS. I believe his name, like the NY outfielder, is Matsui. I would like to think the Sox would focus in the area, since he's an obvious solution to an obvious need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 I have heard nothing but great things about that Japanese SS. I believe his name, like the NY outfielder, is Matsui. I would like to think the Sox would focus in the area, since he's an obvious solution to an obvious need. I think we would be more likely to go after Tejada than the Japanese SS. Before we can even talk contract with that kid, we have to bid just for the right to talk to him. This alone is going to be millions of dollars. And we all know what the chances of us getting in the Tejada sweepstakes are... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Be Good Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 Starting Pitchers Colon, Buehrle, Loazia, (New Aquisition), Garland Relief Pitchers Glover, Koch, Marte, Wunsch, Rauch, Wright, Stewart 1b-Konerko 2b-Miles ss-Jimenez 3b-Crede c-Olivo lf-Lee cf-Harris rf-Ordonez dh-Thomas Bench: Graffanino, Daubach, Barrett, Rios NO Borchard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 Yes! this "core" KW identified after 2000 has definately proved to be dysfunctional. supermaggs! Â Welcome to soxtalk! Â good to see your name here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wsc425 Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 Tejada, Lidle, Millwood, Guerrero are free agents as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wsc425 Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 Look, I only posted this because of the White Sox free agents list was released yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 Look, I only posted this because of the White Sox free agents list was released yesterday. don't be defensive - it may be a little early to speculate on next years line up but as the list was released just recently and I have wondering who our free agents are, I found the information very helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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