Heads22 Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 Predictions for our new pickup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 Just stay healthy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 QUOTE(Jimbo @ Feb 6, 2007 -> 05:26 PM) Just stay healthy exactly. stay healthy, be scrappy and play aggressive like the Erstad of old. He will most likely get 3/4ths the starts out in LF when Pods is out. I'm guessing he'll be the leadoff hitter to start the year as well. So don't need to steal, but just get on base for our 3-4-5-6 sluggers. I predict .265 10 HR 50 RBI which is solid for a part time starter part time bench player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 A few trips to the DL including one sustained injury that keeps him out for about a month which leaves the team with no real 4th OF, Ozzie goes back on his word and starts Mackowiak in CF around 40 times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 He will start more games in left than Pods.Not that he will be great ,but its Pods for christsake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 (edited) He will somehow stay healthy. Why? Because both God and Ozzie Guillen Hate Brian Anderson, and both are doing everything they possibly can to rob the kid of playing time. Anderson will barely face any righties this year, will continue to hit righties better than lefties, and by the end of the year, my mind will be blown as to how we missed the playoffs for the same reason 2 years in a row. Edited February 6, 2007 by Balta1701 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sroe71 Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 Just please, please stay healthy. When Erstad stays healthy, he can make a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alk3kevin Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 Dreadful. Hopefully he plays bad enough that Ozzie loses his vet fetish and realizes he is one of the worst players in MLB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 Darin Erstad: (see 2000) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bongmaster13 Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 QUOTE(Craig Grebeck @ Feb 6, 2007 -> 01:38 PM) Dreadful. Hopefully he plays bad enough that Ozzie loses his vet fetish and realizes he is one of the worst players in MLB. Thats a bit rough dont ya think? For one KW signed Erstad and not Ozzie for two Erstad made it real easy for Angel fans to forget about Edmonds cause he so damn good. The guy has had injury problems but ya cant deny what he did before the injuries and he's only 32. KW would have signed Erstand if he wasnt ready to come back at 100% and contribute. Same s*** was said when Dye was signed and thats worked out damn good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Feb 6, 2007 -> 06:51 PM) He will somehow stay healthy. Why? Because both God and Ozzie Guillen Hate Brian Anderson, and both are doing everything they possibly can to rob the kid of playing time. Anderson will barely face any righties this year, will continue to hit righties better than lefties, and by the end of the year, my mind will be blown as to how we missed the playoffs for the same reason 2 years in a row. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 QUOTE(VicRattlehead @ Feb 6, 2007 -> 01:57 PM) Thats a bit rough dont ya think? For one KW signed Erstad and not Ozzie for two Erstad made it real easy for Angel fans to forget about Edmonds cause he so damn good. The guy has had injury problems but ya cant deny what he did before the injuries and he's only 32. KW would have signed Erstand if he wasnt ready to come back at 100% and contribute. Same s*** was said when Dye was signed and thats worked out damn good. Erstad has been a mediocre offensive player for the past 6 years. And people really have to stop mentioning Dye and Erstad in the same sentence, talk about completely different players and circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bongmaster13 Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Feb 6, 2007 -> 02:05 PM) Erstad has been a mediocre offensive player for the past 6 years. And people really have to stop mentioning Dye and Erstad in the same sentence, talk about completely different players and circumstances. Well I dont agree with mediocre but the point is Dye was a risky signing at the time cause of his injury problems just like Erstad is but we got both for cheap and ya never know he could be another cheap addition that helps us get back to the playoffs. Worth the small risk anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 he's a solid player when healthy. I think he could hit .270 this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Feb 6, 2007 -> 02:05 PM) Erstad has been a mediocre offensive player for the past 6 years. And people really have to stop mentioning Dye and Erstad in the same sentence, talk about completely different players and circumstances. Sox fans probably just remember him being a tough out against us.I know he has hit over .400 against Jon and MB,but there are a few other teams in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 QUOTE(VicRattlehead @ Feb 6, 2007 -> 02:18 PM) Well I dont agree with mediocre but the point is Dye was a risky signing at the time cause of his injury problems just like Erstad is but we got both for cheap and ya never know he could be another cheap addition that helps us get back to the playoffs. Worth the small risk anyway. No, mediocre is the word, he has no power, doesn't draw walks and doesn't drive in runs, he's mediocre. Dye was a risk but it was a great risk to take with major upside, he was coming off some injuries but was still known as a very good hitter when healthy and they gave him a pretty cheap deal. Erstad is bad offensive player who will be limited defensively while coming off ankle surgery but worst of all he's going to be relied upon to be the team's leadoff hitter to start the season which is pretty ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RME JICO Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 He had a lot of time off last year. So hopefully he is fully rested and ready to prove himself again as a grinder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 I'll go with .262BA, will play alot early and then be used sparingly the rest of the year, playing even better when in a platoon-type roll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 eh, i don't know playing time. Depends on that. I'd imagine .234 .260 obp 32 rbis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Has a surprisingly good year....275, 8 HR, 14 SB and plays great defensively in LF and good enough in CF. Ends up becoming a starter (playing most of the time for Pods). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bongmaster13 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Feb 6, 2007 -> 02:29 PM) No, mediocre is the word, he has no power, doesn't draw walks and doesn't drive in runs, he's mediocre. Dye was a risk but it was a great risk to take with major upside, he was coming off some injuries but was still known as a very good hitter when healthy and they gave him a pretty cheap deal. Erstad is bad offensive player who will be limited defensively while coming off ankle surgery but worst of all he's going to be relied upon to be the team's leadoff hitter to start the season which is pretty ridiculous. What does power have anything to do with it? Do ya really think the Sox need more power? Power isnt something they desperately need. Come on now. We didnt pick him up for power anyway depite the fact he has hit 25 in a season before. We needed a solid backup OF in case Pods or BA bomb or have injuries which is the case now with Pods. I wont argue that he doesnt draw walks but neither does Pods and neither drive in runs which isnt a big deal anyway cause they are lead off guys, they wont drive in alot anyway. Erstad isnt my first choice either but Im glad we have him especially now that Pods is having problems yet again. Whos to say Darin cant get back to swinging the bat like he did in 2000? As for mediocre, well thats just your opinion and thats fine but when the guy can stay healthy he's better than mediocre and his career numbers show it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Feb 6, 2007 -> 02:29 PM) No, mediocre is the word, he has no power, doesn't draw walks and doesn't drive in runs, he's mediocre. Dye was a risk but it was a great risk to take with major upside, he was coming off some injuries but was still known as a very good hitter when healthy and they gave him a pretty cheap deal. Erstad is bad offensive player who will be limited defensively while coming off ankle surgery but worst of all he's going to be relied upon to be the team's leadoff hitter to start the season which is pretty ridiculous. I agree. Everyone will be calling for his head soon enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 QUOTE(VicRattlehead @ Feb 6, 2007 -> 07:00 PM) What does power have anything to do with it? Do ya really think the Sox need more power? Power isnt something they desperately need. Come on now. We didnt pick him up for power anyway depite the fact he has hit 25 in a season before. We needed a solid backup OF in case Pods or BA bomb or have injuries which is the case now with Pods. I wont argue that he doesnt draw walks but neither does Pods and neither drive in runs which isnt a big deal anyway cause they are lead off guys, they wont drive in alot anyway. Erstad isnt my first choice either but Im glad we have him especially now that Pods is having problems yet again. Whos to say Darin cant get back to swinging the bat like he did in 2000? As for mediocre, well thats just your opinion and thats fine but when the guy can stay healthy he's better than mediocre and his career numbers show it. Power matters because he's a corner outfielder which is a power position, if you have a good speed guy with a high OBP you can probably get away with it, sadly Erstad is not fast (good baserunner, yes, speed/SB guy? no). Power is also a very nice thing to have when you don't do anything well on offense outside of the little things. He hit 25 HRs 7 YEARS AGO and hasn't come anywhere close since despite being perfectly happy throughout that time span. He's hit a grand total of 18 HRs over the past 4 seasons combined, to even bring up the fact that he hit 25 in a single season is completely pointless. Pods may not draw walks as well as the elite leadoff hitters in the league but when comparing him to Erstad he's pretty decent, Darin draws no walks. Even when hitting in other parts of the batting order Erstad still doesn't drive in runs so that can not be chalked up entirely to hitting leadoff, the guy just does not produce runs and since he'll hopefully be spending time in other parts of the order outside of leadoff (Mack, Iguchi and Ozuna are MUCH better options for leadoff) it would be nice if he could knock in a run or two but it's something he does not have a history of doing. The odds of him just suddenly returning to his 2000 status are about as good as Junior Spivey returning to his all star status of a few years ago. When Darin has hit a certain way for 7 YEARS NOW as well as the years prior to 2000 I'd say that one season was likely an anomaly (1/11 of his career). OPS+ for the past 6 seasons: 78, 88, 75, 95, 89, 60, in order to be just average he needs a 100, being under 100 for that long is the height of mediocrity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 If Erstad can only hit .250 to .270 as most of you say, then why would he play 3/4 of the time when Pods is out? I say play Anderson in cf and one of the other young guys in left. .250 will do us no good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 QUOTE(greg775 @ Feb 6, 2007 -> 09:37 PM) If Erstad can only hit .250 to .270 as most of you say, then why would he play 3/4 of the time when Pods is out? I say play Anderson in cf and one of the other young guys in left. .250 will do us no good. Simple answer: Because Ozzie Guillen is our manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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