Heads22 Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 It's hard to compare Brady's season to what [bert] Jones did in 1976 without all the fancy normalizing math from the book, but let's compare Brady's 2007 season to Manning's 2004 season. Manning had 49 touchdowns with just 497 pass attempts. If we assume Brady plays next week like he has the last few games, he'll end up with something like 51 touchdowns in 570 pass attempts. Yes, that gives him more touchdowns, but it isn't as impressive when it takes him 73 more pass attempts to score them. In addition, Brady has now dropped to 8.3 average yards per attempt. In his record-setting season, Manning averaged 9.2 yards per attempt. That's a huge difference. Brady has been straining so hard to set records in conventional stats that his season now looks worse in the eyes of advanced stats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 Keep it up Eli. I hate you, but I love watching this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted December 30, 2007 Author Share Posted December 30, 2007 So much for resting starters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted December 30, 2007 Author Share Posted December 30, 2007 Ha. Moss drops a deep pass, than next play, Brady goes back to him for a huge TD and Pats go ahead. Where is Butler on the coverage? Yikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 Randy Moss is the MVP. He's the singular difference from this Patriots team to the others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted December 30, 2007 Author Share Posted December 30, 2007 Eli INT. Awful effort by Burress though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted December 30, 2007 Author Share Posted December 30, 2007 TD Maroney, 16-0, Starters probably done for NE now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 Heads, I saw that post of yours trying to diminish what Brady's done. There's a huge difference between the team Manning had and the team Brady has. New England is simply designed to throw, even short. That, more than some desperation for the record, is the difference in pass attempts. New England is a better franchise. Bill Belichick is almost undeniably a greater coach. Tom Brady is his generation's Montana; Manning is Marino. I know who I prefer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Dec 29, 2007 -> 10:33 PM) Heads, I saw that post of yours trying to diminish what Brady's done. There's a huge difference between the team Manning had and the team Brady has. New England is simply designed to throw, even short. That, more than some desperation for the record, is the difference in pass attempts. New England is a better franchise. Bill Belichick is almost undeniably a greater coach. Tom Brady is his generation's Montana; Manning is Marino. I know who I prefer. To each their own I guess. I prefer a class organization that still wins all of the time. Throw in the fact that the Colts had a bevy of injuries against NE and for much of the season, and I still think it's anyone's game when they meet up in Foxboro. Manning still had his 49 in 15 games, which Brady did not, but Tom can keep the record. I'd still rather have Peyton and we have just as good of a shot to upset the Patriots as anyone. It should make a difference with Harrison, Sanders and Gonzalez back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 I'd love to see New England reach the Super Bowl, only to lose by one point to Green Bay on a Favre touchdown pass to Driver on the final play of the game. That would make me smile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Dec 29, 2007 -> 10:33 PM) Tom Brady is his generation's Montana; Manning is Marino. I know who I prefer. Manning has a Super Bowl, awful comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Dec 29, 2007 -> 11:33 PM) Heads, I saw that post of yours trying to diminish what Brady's done. There's a huge difference between the team Manning had and the team Brady has. New England is simply designed to throw, even short. That, more than some desperation for the record, is the difference in pass attempts. New England is a better franchise. Bill Belichick is almost undeniably a greater coach. Tom Brady is his generation's Montana; Manning is Marino. I know who I prefer. Until someone writes a book about the genius of the Colts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 Well after tonight, I think it shows that New England can certainly be beaten. Defensively, they certainly have some issues they need to address. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 Just a few notes: 1. There are no bigger crybabies in the NFL than the Dungy-Manning Colts. 2. I know Marino didn't have a Superbowl win, but the comparison is still there. Better stats, less Super Bowl victories. 3. "Class organization that still wins all the time". Except in the playoffs. Besides, I reject any characterization of the Patriots as "classless". What Belichick is, whatever it is, is what I'd like to be. "Classless" isn't the word for it, and anybody with a decent familiarity of the man knows that. But he is a bristling contrarian and a perfectionist and a genius in his art. f*** if being a "nice guy" matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Dec 30, 2007 -> 01:03 AM) Just a few notes: 1. There are no bigger crybabies in the NFL than the Dungy-Manning Colts. 2. I know Marino didn't have a Superbowl win, but the comparison is still there. Better stats, less Super Bowl victories. 3. "Class organization that still wins all the time". Except in the playoffs. Besides, I reject any characterization of the Patriots as "classless". What Belichick is, whatever it is, is what I'd like to be. "Classless" isn't the word for it, and anybody with a decent familiarity of the man knows that. But he is a bristling contrarian and a perfectionist and a genius in his art. f*** if being a "nice guy" matters. 1. The Chargers say hi. 2. Marino and Manning are no longer linked. Manning got his Super Bowl, proving he could win the big game. And he broke/will break every career record as well. 3. See no. 2. They do win in the playoffs, I believe a Super Bowl ring means that. 4. Stop slurping Belichick already. It's f***ing annoying. You and I have talked about this enough. Belichick is a bum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 Belichick is not a bum. That you misunderstand him is your right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 This undrafted RB the Saints have ... Pierre Thomas ... has 3 times more heart and drive than Cedric Benson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted December 30, 2007 Author Share Posted December 30, 2007 QUOTE(YASNY @ Dec 30, 2007 -> 01:39 PM) This undrafted RB the Saints have ... Pierre Thomas ... has 3 times more heart and drive than Cedric Benson. And 100 times the O-Line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 QUOTE(Brian @ Dec 30, 2007 -> 01:41 PM) And 100 times the O-Line The O-line doesn't break tackles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 QUOTE(YASNY @ Dec 30, 2007 -> 01:39 PM) This undrafted RB the Saints have ... Pierre Thomas ... has 3 times more heart and drive than Cedric Benson. Illini. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 QUOTE(SnB @ Dec 30, 2007 -> 01:44 PM) Illini. I knew somebody would jump all over that fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 Yes, that's right, just keep kicking to Hester people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurcieOne Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 Pierre Thomas needs to come home and play for his Chicago Bears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 QUOTE(MurcieOne @ Dec 30, 2007 -> 03:10 PM) Pierre Thomas needs to come home and play for his Chicago Bears. Not only is he better than Benson, but he's a Sox fan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 The Cowboys look kind of shakey lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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