scenario Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 (edited) Saw this on Scott Reifert's blog... thought it was interesting. "Here is a list of minor-league pitchers traded by the White Sox since October 2000:" (any missing?) 2000 Mark Roberts Brian Schmack Aaron Myette 2001 Gary Majewski Mike Williams Orlando Rodriguez Andre Simpson Matt Dewitt Derek Hasselhoff Daniel Mozingo Josh Fogg 2002 Matt Guerrier Joe Valentine 2003 Eddi Candelario Jason Aspito Delvis Lantigua Edwin Almonte Royce Ring Frankie Francisco Josh Rupe Tim Bittner Scott Dunn Jake Meyer 2005 Ryan Meaux Daniel Haigwood Gio Gonzalez 2006 Jeff Bajenaru Javier Lopez B.J. LaMura Daniel Cortes Tyler Lumsden 2007 Dwayne Pollock 2008 Gio Gonzalez Fautino De Los Santos Edited January 9, 2008 by scenario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyDo Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 This is pretty good evidence of a) our drafting/development ineptitude, B) the relative worthlessness --or maybe i should say overratedness, if that's a word -- of prospects in general (I mean, I'm sure we got some useful players in return for some of those guys) and c) solid reasoning behind the swisher trade. now what would be interesting to me is to see the prospect rankings of some of those guys at the time of their trades. Most likely none of them were at the level of Gio or DLS but if they were, that's even MORE evidence. anybody got that information? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 QUOTE(ScottyDo @ Jan 8, 2008 -> 09:25 PM) This is pretty good evidence of a) our drafting/development ineptitude, B) the relative worthlessness --or maybe i should say overratedness, if that's a word -- of prospects in general (I mean, I'm sure we got some useful players in return for some of those guys) and c) solid reasoning behind the swisher trade. now what would be interesting to me is to see the prospect rankings of some of those guys at the time of their trades. Most likely none of them were at the level of Gio or DLS but if they were, that's even MORE evidence. anybody got that information? Sorry to be offtopic here, but I just noticed you were from Ann Arbor, are you a student or what? I thought I was the only Sox fan here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wong & Owens Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 QUOTE(scenario @ Jan 8, 2008 -> 07:48 PM) Saw this on Scott Reifert's blog... thought it was interesting. "Here is a list of minor-league pitchers traded by the White Sox since October 2000:" (any missing?) 2000 Mark Roberts Brian Schmack Aaron Myette 2001 Gary Majewski Mike Williams Orlando Rodriguez Andre Simpson Matt Dewitt Derek Hasselhoff Daniel Mozingo Josh Fogg 2002 Matt Guerrier Joe Valentine 2003 Eddi Candelario Jason Aspito Delvis Lantigua Edwin Almonte Royce Ring Frankie Francisco Josh Rupe Tim Bittner Scott Dunn Jake Meyer 2005 Ryan Meaux Daniel Haigwood Gio Gonzalez 2006 Jeff Bajenaru Javier Lopez B.J. LaMura Daniel Cortes Tyler Lumsden 2007 Dwayne Pollock 2008 Gio Gonzalez Fautino De Los Santos Jon Rauch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metz Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 I am just wow'd by the big names on this list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 QUOTE(bigruss22 @ Jan 8, 2008 -> 08:48 PM) Sorry to be offtopic here, but I just noticed you were from Ann Arbor, are you a student or what? I thought I was the only Sox fan here! Ann Arbor is a whore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaseballNick Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 I suppose Rauch was no longer considered a prospect when he was traded. BTW, that is one pathetic list of pitchers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 QUOTE(The Beast @ Jan 8, 2008 -> 08:59 PM) Ann Arbor is a whore. Yes it is. And I was actually PISSED about trading Haigwood. I thought for sure he was money in the bank, guess not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 Matt Ginter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 (edited) I can't believe the Whitesox traded away their future like that Edited January 9, 2008 by striker62704 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 QUOTE(striker62704 @ Jan 9, 2008 -> 09:55 AM) I can't believe the Whitesox traded away their future like that Further proof that the Swisher trade was awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 So does this list lend Kenny a little bit of credibility when the subject of trading away prospects comes up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 Enemencio Pacheco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palehosefan Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 Eventually you gotta wonder why teams trade with us :-P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 QUOTE(Palehosefan @ Jan 9, 2008 -> 03:05 PM) Eventually you gotta wonder why teams trade with us :-P. Well that would explain the lack of interest from teams dealing with us the past couple of years.I think we have to improve the farm with excellent draft picks the next 3 years straight or this organizations future will be pretty bleak for the next decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RME JICO Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 Now what is the list of players we got in return for those players? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 QUOTE(RME JICO @ Jan 9, 2008 -> 03:25 PM) Now what is the list of players we got in return for those players? Or the list of minor league pitchers the Sox have traded FOR and where they ended up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 Gio Gonzalez is the new Gary Majewski. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewashed in '05 Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 Not that its important, but isn't that list missing some and a little wrong? We shipped Anthony Webster with Rupe and Francisco to Texas in 03. Majew got traded in 04 for Everett the second time. We also traded Alex Fernandez and Humberto Quintero for Jimenez in 02. Not a big deal, but just wanted to note it. There might be more missing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 QUOTE(Whitewashed in '05 @ Jan 9, 2008 -> 04:14 PM) Not that its important, but isn't that list missing some and a little wrong? We shipped Anthony Webster with Rupe and Francisco to Texas in 03. Majew got traded in 04 for Everett the second time. We also traded Alex Fernandez and Humberto Quintero for Jimenez in 02. Not a big deal, but just wanted to note it. There might be more missing. Reifert's list only includes pitching prospects the guys you mentioned are all position players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewashed in '05 Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jan 9, 2008 -> 04:17 PM) Reifert's list only includes pitching prospects the guys you mentioned are all position players. I feel dumb. I guess I should have read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scenario Posted January 9, 2008 Author Share Posted January 9, 2008 QUOTE(Whitewashed in '05 @ Jan 9, 2008 -> 04:19 PM) I feel dumb. I guess I should have read. That's alright. The more times you post, the more times I get to look at your avatar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevo880 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 what about kip wells? i thought he went with josh fogg in the todd ritchie trade? or was that in 99? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 QUOTE(kevo880 @ Jan 9, 2008 -> 06:52 PM) what about kip wells? i thought he went with josh fogg in the todd ritchie trade? or was that in 99? Wasnt he already a starter for us though or atleast a reliever? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Jan 9, 2008 -> 06:53 PM) Wasnt he already a starter for us though or atleast a reliever? I believe they both were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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