The Democrat Thread

[BigSqwert]

Interesting that in this case, Palin actually had the correct answer, and the more experienced McCain went off the reservation.

 

I also find it a bit hypocritical that Mr 10 house and 11 cars and Mrs $150K wardrobe have the gall to be calling others elitists.

[HuskyCaucasian]

I also find it a bit hypocritical that Mr 10 house and 11 cars and Mrs $150K wardrobe have the gall to be calling others elitists.

I'd be willing to bet Cindy McCain thinks she's better than a lot of people.

 

Oh, and so McCain thinks he's a better presidential candidate than Obama, so McCain thinks he's better than Obama. Wouldnt that make him... well... elitist?

[Harry Chappas]

Gotta love McCain and the GOP's constant effort to divide.

 

WOW, their stance on abortion flies directly in the face of the letting poeple decide line.

 

What a dofus, he is almost becoming as big an embarassment as Palin.

 

 

[BigSqwert]

WOW, their stance on abortion flies directly in the face of the letting poeple decide line.

 

Great catch. I didn't even notice that line.

[HuskyCaucasian]

Chicago GOP to "Counter Program" the Obama rally:

While Obama and his followers throng Grant Park, a hardy band of Chicago Republicans will set up across the street at the Chicago Hilton.

 

Really? Are they actively trying to start a riot? Why not hold it out here in Schaumburg? Across the street?

[BigSqwert]

Chicago GOP to "Counter Program" the Obama rally:

 

 

Really? Are they actively trying to start a riot? Why not hold it out here in Schaumburg? Across the street?

 

Who cares. They'll be outnumbered 10,000 to 1.

[HuskyCaucasian]

Speaking of the Obama rally, McCain isnt even going to his:

Republican John McCain is not going to make his election night remarks in the traditional style _ at a podium standing in front of a sea of campaign workers jammed into a hotel ballroom.

 

Oh, the throng of supporters will hold the usual election night party at the Biltmore Hotel in Phoenix on the evening of Nov. 4.

 

But the Republican presidential nominee plans to address another group of supporters and a small group of reporters on the hotel lawn; his remarks will be simultaneously piped electronically to the party inside and other reporters in a media filing center, aides said.

 

Only a small press "pool" _ mostly those who have traveled regularly with the candidate on his campaign plane, plus a few local Arizona reporters and other guests _ will be physically present when McCain speaks.

 

Thomas Patterson, a government professor at Harvard's Shorenstein Center on the Press, Politics and Public Policy, called the arrangement "unusual" but said the campaign may simply be bowing to the reality that the candidate's remarks are geared toward the televised audience rather than those in the hall.

 

"Addressing your supporters election night is one of those traditions in politics, like where you choose to launch your campaign," Patterson said. "Why wouldn't you want the energy of the crowd? And if you're going to lose, you almost need it even more."

 

That sounds a bit pessimistic if you ask me.

Edited October 23, 2008 by Athomeboy_2000

[BigSqwert]

Speaking of the Obama rally, McCain isnt even going to his:

 

 

That sounds a bit pessimistic if you ask me.

 

They want the green lawn to serve as a nice backdrop. He films quite nicely with green backgrounds.

[HuskyCaucasian]

He films quite nicely with green backgrounds.

[Soxbadger]

Most people dont appear and/or give a speech at their funeral.

 

Just saying.

 

[BigSqwert]

End of an Era

 

George Packer

October 23, 2008

 

Step back a moment from the robocalls and the Biden gaffes and the Valentino jacket to take in the history being made as we watch. I don’t mean the likelihood of a black American President, though that’s mind-bending enough. I’m referring to the complete collapse of the four-decade project that brought conservatism to power in America.

 

The conservative movement was driven by the single unifying idea that government is the problem, not the solution. It attained and kept power through the highly successful political strategy of dividing the country into the hard-working, America-loving, God-fearing majority and the minority of élitist liberals who wanted to tell the majority what to do. What’s happened to that idea and that strategy over the past few weeks?

 

When Obama told an Ohio plumber on camera that his tax plan would take some money from the rich and give some back to the middle- and working-class, the McCain-Palin campaign got very excited—they finally had the key to turning the race around. Since then, the Republicans have been talking about Joe, socialism, and spreading the wealth around at every turn. Did Obama begin to sink in the polls, as pundits predicted? Was Dick Morris finally going to get something about this election right? No, Obama rose—and even on taxes he’s preferred over McCain. Like Democrats running against Herbert Hoover well into the 1970s, the Republican campaign still thinks it’s 1980. But it turns out that in 2008 voters can actually imagine worse things than tax rates on upper incomes returning to their Clinton-era level.

 

Entire article

[bmags]

that thing about elitists in NYC and Wash really pisses me off. Once again, as I've said, it was really insightful to hear Jon Stewart talk about how it pisses him off that politicians like Palin and McCain come to New York, go to ground zero was such empathy and talk about how resilient new yorkers are, and then leave and talk s*** about how they are just elitists telling the real americans how to act.

[HuskyCaucasian]

The Bushie defections continue:

Former Press Secretary Scott McClellan Endorses Obama

Scott McClellan, President Bush's former press secretary, says he is backing Barack Obama for president.

 

McClellan made the endorsement during a taping of Comedian D.L. Hughley's new show that is premiering on CNN this weekend. The former Bush administration official said he wanted to support the candidate that has the best chance for changing the way Washington works and getting things done.

 

He's the second former Bush administration figure this week to publicly back Obama, following former Secretary of State Colin Powell. McClellan caused bitterness among his former co-workers with a tell-all book that criticized Bush.

[BigSqwert]

The Bushie defections continue:

Former Press Secretary Scott McClellan Endorses Obama

 

I never realized he was black.

[BigSqwert]

[HuskyCaucasian]

Not bad

[DrunkBomber]

Hamas endorsed Obama... now Al-Qaida endorses McCain

gmafb

[Balta1701]

gmafb

If the McCain campaign hadn't decided that Hamas's endorsement was something that we should take in to account, then I'd agree. But based on the standards they set...

[BigSqwert]

The new numbers from SurveyUSA: Democratic candidate El Tinklenberg 47%, Bachmann 44%, and Independence Party candidate Bob Anderson 6%, with a ±4% margin of error.

[clyons]

The Bushie defections continue:

Former Press Secretary Scott McClellan Endorses Obama

 

I think McClellan defected awhile ago, back when his book was published.

[lostfan]

gmafb

No... see... McCain is the one who made it an issue... people tried to explain why it was such a dumb conclusion to draw, but now he should see.

[GoSox05]

Looks like Mccain has meet with a dictator without pre-conditions.

 

entire article

 

John McCain, who has harshly criticized the idea of sitting down with dictators without pre-conditions, appears to have done just that. In 1985, McCain traveled to Chile for a friendly meeting with Chile's military ruler, General Augusto Pinochet, one of the world's most notorious violators of human rights credited with killing more than 3,000 civilians and jailing tens of thousands of others.

 

 

McCain described the meeting with Pinochet "as friendly and at times warm, but noted that Pinochet does seem obsessed with the threat of communism." McCain, a member of the House Foreign Affairs Committee at the time, made no public or private statements critical of the dictatorship, nor did he meet with members of the democratic opposition, as far as could be determined from a thorough check of U.S. and Chilean newspaper records and interviews with top opposition leaders.

Edited October 24, 2008 by GoSox05

[BigSqwert]

Looks like Mccain has meet with a dictator without pre-conditions.

 

entire article

 

What do you expect from the king of hypocrisy?

[lostfan]

It's different when the dictator is pro-American. Make of that what you will though, because that's a whole other issue in itself.

[bmags]

Pinochet was an evil, evil man. They used to just take dissenters, put them on a helicopter ride and just drop them in the middle of the ocean. The weird thing about Pinochet is usually countries have a predisposition to some type of dictator rule while Chile really seemed like he came out of nowhere.