The Democrat Thread

[BigSqwert]

By the way, it's worth pointing out how no matter who makes the point Maher tries to make about how Baseball and Football are like the Democratic and Republican philosophies, baseball's still the sport which has had a whole lot more mobility up and down in terms of who's actually winning the games, and the NFL has franchises just as moribund as the Pirates & Royals in MLB.

That has more to do with terrible management.

[Balta1701]

That has more to do with terrible management.

In which sport? The Bills/Lions or the Royals/Pirates?

[BigSqwert]

In which sport? The Bills/Lions or the Royals/Pirates?

 

The Bills/Lions. The Royals/Pirates can get great management and still have almost no chance to build a perennial contender. Not with their payroll.

Edited January 31, 2011 by BigSqwert

[Balta1701]

The Bills/Lions. The Royals/Pirates can get great management and still have almost no chance to build a perennial contender. Not with their payroll.

Like Tampa Bay.

[BigSqwert]

Like Tampa Bay.

 

Well they're back to the bottom of the heap now.

[Balta1701]

Well they're back to the bottom of the heap now.

Really? I'd be shocked if they weren't at least "Competitive" this year. Their starting pitching is still in tact, and they have people who can replace Crawford. And a 3 year run isn't bad at all.

 

Or how about the Marlins, 2 world series in their first 10 years.

 

Or how about the Twins, basically building themselves into a medium-market club by constantly winning as a small market club (with 2 world series wins in the last 25 years as well).

 

Or the run the Small-Market Oakland A's got on earlier this year.

 

Or the team that started off 2010 in bankruptcy with the 4th lowest salary in the league making a world series run.

 

Edit: If I go a little farther, Maher specifically states that a team like the Pirates has the same chance of making the W.S. as a black teenager from Harlem has of becoming CEO of Halliburton. 2 of the 4 bottom teams in salary last year, the Rangers and the Padres, were competitive for their divisions until the end of the year, and as I noted, 1 of them wound up in the Show. Meanwhile, 3 of the top 6 teams in salary missed the playoffs and a couple finished well under .500. Maher's analogy really doesn't hold at all.

 

If you want to say Socialism is why the NFL is great, you really need to talk about public funding of ballparks, because the dynasty/parity thing just doesn't work if you compare to MLB.

[southsider2k5]

via Conor Friedersdorf (filling in for Sullivan)

 

The easy solution is just steal the information instead.

[BigSqwert]

Really? I'd be shocked if they weren't at least "Competitive" this year. Their starting pitching is still in tact, and they have people who can replace Crawford. And a 3 year run isn't bad at all.

 

Or how about the Marlins, 2 world series in their first 10 years.

 

Or how about the Twins, basically building themselves into a medium-market club by constantly winning as a small market club (with 2 world series wins in the last 25 years as well).

 

Or the run the Small-Market Oakland A's got on earlier this year.

 

Or the team that started off 2010 in bankruptcy with the 4th lowest salary in the league making a world series run.

 

Edit: If I go a little farther, Maher specifically states that a team like the Pirates has the same chance of making the W.S. as a black teenager from Harlem has of becoming CEO of Halliburton. 2 of the 4 bottom teams in salary last year, the Rangers and the Padres, were competitive for their divisions until the end of the year, and as I noted, 1 of them wound up in the Show. Meanwhile, 3 of the top 6 teams in salary missed the playoffs and a couple finished well under .500. Maher's analogy really doesn't hold at all.

 

If you want to say Socialism is why the NFL is great, you really need to talk about public funding of ballparks, because the dynasty/parity thing just doesn't work if you compare to MLB.

 

You're not my friend anymore.

 

*takes toys away and goes home*

[BigSqwert]

In the WTF!? Department:

 

South Dakota Considers Requiring Gun Ownership

[Balta1701]

In the WTF!? Department:

 

South Dakota Considers Requiring Gun Ownership

Individual purchase mandates are clearly unconstitutional.

[Balta1701]

The 2012 meeting of the Democratic National Convention, and presumably some sort of large speech, will be held in Charlotte, North Carolina.

[NorthSideSox72]

Individual purchase mandates are clearly unconstitutional.

Yes they are, in this case or the other. Although this is a state mandate, and I don't know the South Dakota Constitution. I'd have to think this would require an amendment though.

 

[Balta1701]

Yes they are, in this case or the other. Although this is a state mandate, and I don't know the South Dakota Constitution. I'd have to think this would require an amendment though.

It's quite funny because in the other thread, I pointed out how in 1792, George Washington signed a gun purchase mandate, and 2k5's response was "Imagine if something like that were proposed today".

[NorthSideSox72]

It's quite funny because in the other thread, I pointed out how in 1792, George Washington signed a gun purchase mandate, and 2k5's response was "Imagine if something like that were proposed today".

In 1792 that was done in part because the country was fearing a very large war. Not really the same. But in any case, did you see SS disagreeing with you on that one?

 

[StrangeSox]

Individual purchase mandates are clearly unconstitutional.

 

I believe the bill was written in green ink.

[Balta1701]

Link

In a strong rebuke of President Obama and his domestic agenda, all 242 House Republicans voted Wednesday to repeal the Asteroid Destruction and American Preservation Act, which was signed into law last year to destroy the immense asteroid currently hurtling toward Earth.

 

The $440 billion legislation, which would send a dozen high-thrust plasma impactor probes to shatter the massive asteroid before it strikes the planet, would affect more than 300 million Americans and is strongly opposed by the GOP.

 

"The voters sent us to Washington to stand up for individual liberty, not big government," Rep. Steve King (R-IA) said at a press conference. "Obama's plan would take away citizens' fundamental freedoms, forcing each of us into hastily built concrete bunkers and empowering the federal government to ration our access to food, water, and potassium iodide tablets while underground."

 

"We believe that the decisions of how to deal with the massive asteroid are best left to the individual," King added.

 

Repealing the act, which opponents have branded 'Obamastroid,' has been the cornerstone of the GOP agenda since the law's passage last August. Throughout the 2010 elections, Republican candidates claimed that the Democrats' plan to smash the space rock and shield citizens from its fragments was "a classic example of the federal government needlessly interfering in the lives of everyday Americans."

 

"This law is a job killer," said Rep. Virginia Foxx (R-NC), who argued the tax increases required to save the human species from annihilation would impose unbearably high costs on businesses. "If we sit back and do nothing, Obamastroid will result in hundreds of thousands of lost jobs, which we simply can't afford in this economy."

 

"And consider how much money this program will add to our already bloated deficit," Foxx continued. "Is this the legacy we want to leave our children?"

 

Many GOP members have also criticized the legislation for what they consider pork-barrel spending, claiming the act includes billions in "giveaways" to NASA, nonperishable food manufacturers, and pharmaceutical companies contracted to produce mass volumes of vitamin D supplements in the likely event that dust from the asteroid's impact blots out the sun for a decade.

 

In an effort to counter Republicans' claims, Democrats have asserted that the long-term benefits of preventing the United States from being incinerated by an explosion several billion times more powerful than the Hiroshima bomb would far outweigh the initial monetary outlay.

[lostfan]

The Onion cutting a little too close to the truth again.

[Balta1701]

If anyone wants to see the sequel to the Bill O'Reilly "Tide goes in, tide goes out" proof of God's existence, here it is. How did the Moon get there?

 

I recommend the comments.

 

(p.s. Having a number of friends who are actively working on the minor details of how the Moon, and Sun, etc., got there, how they got their final isotopic compositions, etc., I find this priceless).

[StrangeSox]

If anyone wants to see the sequel to the Bill O'Reilly "Tide goes in, tide goes out" proof of God's existence, here it is. How did the Moon get there?

 

I recommend the comments.

 

(p.s. Having a number of friends who are actively working on the minor details of how the Moon, and Sun, etc., got there, how they got their final isotopic compositions, etc., I find this priceless).

 

Holy Christ. That's a borderline retarded argument. Like something is seriously wrong with his cognitive abilities.

 

eedit: Bad Astronomy with a good detail of everything Bill got wrong in that short video.

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastro...lly-tidal-bore/

Edited February 3, 2011 by StrangeSox

[BigSqwert]

[HuskyCaucasian]

The 2012 meeting of the Democratic National Convention, and presumably some sort of large speech, will be held in Charlotte, North Carolina.

in a swing state... smart move

[BigSqwert]

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[Balta1701]

in a swing state... smart move

FWIW, it's been noted since the Dems announced their Convention that there is no statistical evidence for any positive local vote gains due to the presence of a nearby party convention.

[Rex Kickass]

The ACORN Pimp/Ho road show is back, and the new target is Planned Parenthood.

 

Turns out "Live Action" went to 13 different Planned Parenthood centers across the Northeast with cameras posing as a pimp trafficking underage prostitutes and wanted information on abortion. They released a video where the counselor made some improper and unethical counsel to these people.

 

The Planned Parenthood employee? Fired upon discovery of the remarks. The FBI, by the way, was also notified of these unusual visits, because Planned Parenthood generally errs on the side of caution when it comes to human trafficking.

 

I think we can all agree, that no medical professional should act illegally when counselling patients about reproductive health, or any personal health issues for that matter. But because of this "sting" operation, designed to get an organization in trouble unnecessarily, the FBI is now spending extra resources investigating a potential child trafficking organization that doesn't really exist and that's kind of horrifying.

 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110202/us_nm/us_abortion_video

 

For the record, fully two thirds of Planned Parenthood services entail STD Screening and STD/Pregnancy Prevention and Education. Another 17% of it is cancer screening. Abortion related services entail just 3% of what this organization does.

[Y2HH]

The ACORN Pimp/Ho road show is back, and the new target is Planned Parenthood.

 

Turns out "Live Action" went to 13 different Planned Parenthood centers across the Northeast with cameras posing as a pimp trafficking underage prostitutes and wanted information on abortion. They released a video where the counselor made some improper and unethical counsel to these people.

 

The Planned Parenthood employee? Fired upon discovery of the remarks. The FBI, by the way, was also notified of these unusual visits, because Planned Parenthood generally errs on the side of caution when it comes to human trafficking.

 

I think we can all agree, that no medical professional should act illegally when counselling patients about reproductive health, or any personal health issues for that matter. But because of this "sting" operation, designed to get an organization in trouble unnecessarily, the FBI is now spending extra resources investigating a potential child trafficking organization that doesn't really exist and that's kind of horrifying.

 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110202/us_nm/us_abortion_video

 

For the record, fully two thirds of Planned Parenthood services entail STD Screening and STD/Pregnancy Prevention and Education. Another 17% of it is cancer screening. Abortion related services entail just 3% of what this organization does.

 

Aren't they also anti-abortion? From what I've heard, they try to talk people out of having abortions...but that's just rumor, I don't know because I'm not a woman, and I've never tried to have an abortion via Planned Parenthood. Sounds to me like they should rename the service from Planned Partenthood to "STD screenings and Pregnancy Prevention"...which sounds nothing like planning to be a parent aka "Planned Parenthood".

Edited February 3, 2011 by Y2HH