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The Media went after Palin because all the money spend in campaing clothing. However, during inauguration, Michelle ordered several dresses probably not very cheap and nobody said anything about it. On the contrary, Michelle was the fashion star in the Media.

 

Is there anything wrong with this picture?

 

I despise the Media not just in Cuba but in the world including the USA media. What a shame!

 

 

 

 

Drill, Baby Drill! No drilling yet. No complain when gas skyrocket again. We know the Democrats will blame the Republicans for the shortcomings like in the financial crisis.

 

Note: I am independent.

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QUOTE (Cubano @ Jan 30, 2009 -> 12:01 PM)
Note: I am independent.

Complain about taxes, envy of the rich, socialism, class warfare themes

Advocate drilling as a cure-all to energy problems

Complain about the liberal media

 

That's 3 for 3 so far, you sound pretty lock-step, hard right Republican.

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QUOTE (lostfan @ Jan 30, 2009 -> 12:04 PM)
Complain about taxes, envy of the rich, socialism, class warfare themes

Advocate drilling as a cure-all to energy problems

Complain about the liberal media

 

That's 3 for 3 so far, you sound pretty lock-step, hard right Republican.

 

 

You know I am right. I do not like manipulation fo the Media. Remember, I am fresh and I am not American by birth. I came from another background. I despise Republicans too. I am in the middle.

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QUOTE (Cubano @ Jan 30, 2009 -> 12:06 PM)
You know I am right. I do not like manipulation fo the Media. Remember, I am fresh and I am not American by birth. I came from another background. I despise Republicans too. I am in the middle.

I'm not a fan of the media by any means but that's a pretty standard Republican theme and tactic. Taint the message before it arrives. If it's positive for you, you win. If it's negative, claim bias. Whether the bias is really there (it is sometimes) or not.

 

Palin was treated unfairly for a period of a few weeks (right now she's getting more attention than she's earned, IMO) but really she made herself a target by claiming to be something she's wasn't (which people eventually figured out), then mocking her opponents, not backing it up with anything substantive or halfway intelligent, and whining about it endlessly afterwards.

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QUOTE (lostfan @ Jan 30, 2009 -> 05:10 PM)
I'm not a fan of the media by any means but that's a pretty standard Republican theme and tactic. Taint the message before it arrives. If it's positive for you, you win. If it's negative, claim bias. Whether the bias is really there (it is sometimes) or not.

 

Palin was treated unfairly for a period of a few weeks (right now she's getting more attention than she's earned, IMO) but really she made herself a target by claiming to be something she's wasn't (which people eventually figured out), then mocking her opponents, not backing it up with anything substantive or halfway intelligent, and whining about it endlessly afterwards.

 

and closing herself off from the media. Also, when you claim to be just a modest hockey mom just like you and not like the elitists on the coasts, perhaps you shouldn't go dressing at the elitist clothing shops.

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QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 30, 2009 -> 12:15 PM)
and closing herself off from the media. Also, when you claim to be just a modest hockey mom just like you and not like the elitists on the coasts, perhaps you shouldn't go dressing at the elitist clothing shops.

I forgot about those, they are big ones.

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QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 30, 2009 -> 12:15 PM)
and closing herself off from the media. Also, when you claim to be just a modest hockey mom just like you and not like the elitists on the coasts, perhaps you shouldn't go dressing at the elitist clothing shops.

 

 

And Michelle being proud to be American for the first time... Go and live outside the USA for a week without your dollars and then tell me...

 

 

By the way, Palin probably has less money than Michelle. The Republicans gave her the clothing.

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Couple random points.

 

First of all, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if the dresses she wore for the inauguration didn't cost a cent. People going to award shows wear designer dresses that they don't pay for. Because it's wonderful marketing for the designer.

 

Secondly, there are more than a few instances of Michelle on the campaign trail wearing things that were actually quite reasonably priced.

 

And third...really, why the Hell am I bothering with this?

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QUOTE (Cubano @ Jan 30, 2009 -> 11:43 AM)
By the way, Palin probably has less money than Michelle. The Republicans gave her the clothing.

 

Maybe, but so what? Michelle is a Harvard Law graduate - I'd expect her to have done well.

 

And, for the record, Palin's family income was in the upper $100k's.

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QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 30, 2009 -> 11:44 AM)
Should I be the one to point out that Michelle Obama wasn't running for office?

 

Wouldnt have mattered because there would have been endless excuses and covering up the "finally proud" statement or anything else said that was questionable if she was running.

 

 

 

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QUOTE (klaus kinski @ Jan 30, 2009 -> 12:52 PM)
Wouldnt have mattered because there would have been endless excuses and covering up the "finally proud" statement or anything else said that was questionable if she was running.

"Wouldn't have mattered" still pretty much means "doesn't matter."

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Remember, part of the Palin problem was the GOP payed $150,000 for her clothing... then denyed it... then pointed fingers at McCains people... then they pointed back.

 

It wasnt so much the clothing, rather where the money came from. Should a political party or campaign be paying to "sex up" a candidate?

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QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jan 30, 2009 -> 01:00 PM)
Remember, part of the Palin problem was the GOP payed $150,000 for her clothing... then denyed it... then pointed fingers at McCains people... then they pointed back.

 

It wasnt so much the clothing, rather where the money came from. Should a political party or campaign be paying to "sex up" a candidate?

Weren't you the one who kept wanting to call her a MILF in here?

 

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QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 30, 2009 -> 01:03 PM)
Weren't you the one who kept wanting to call her a MILF in here?

She is very attractive. I dont deny that. What i am saying is should they have used campaign money to make her sexier in an attempt to draw votes? I find that sleazy.

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QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jan 30, 2009 -> 01:18 PM)
She is very attractive. I dont deny that. What i am saying is should they have used campaign money to make her sexier in an attempt to draw votes? I find that sleazy.

You don't see the duality in your positions on this? Its OK for you to focus on her sex appeal, and give her insulting labels, but if private entities like herself or the GOP to spend money on her outfits it is sleazy?

 

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QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jan 30, 2009 -> 02:18 PM)
She is very attractive. I dont deny that. What i am saying is should they have used campaign money to make her sexier in an attempt to draw votes? I find that sleazy.

I honestly don't have a problem with it, but it just became one of many reasons that me and many others thought she came off as a phony gimmick (pretending she has things in common with me, as if that's a reason I should be using to decide my vote anyway).

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QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 30, 2009 -> 02:03 PM)
Weren't you the one who kept wanting to call her a MILF in here?

 

 

I rather have somebody denying that clothing controversy as oppose as having somebody representing the USA after saying she never felt proud to be an American.

 

How about that Harvard degree?

 

How about that money you made in the USA?

 

 

Somebody is little confused. Michelle, Michelle go oversees and live w/o your American dollars. Then, tell me you are not proud to be an American.

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QUOTE (Cubano @ Jan 31, 2009 -> 12:32 AM)
I rather have somebody denying that clothing controversy as oppose as having somebody representing the USA after saying she never felt proud to be an American.

 

How about that Harvard degree?

 

How about that money you made in the USA?

 

 

Somebody is little confused. Michelle, Michelle go oversees and live w/o your American dollars. Then, tell me you are not proud to be an American.

She's... not... holding... any political office...

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First of all, get the quote right if you are going to make this argument. Michelle said, "For the first time in my adult life I am proud of my country." She never said that she was not proud to be an American. Also, the quote is out of context and if you look at it she is obviously speaking about being proud that Americans have overcome so much in the last 40 years to be able to have real hope of electing an black man President. At least pick something a little more substantial to be upset with the Obamas than one sentence that was uttered half a year ago.

 

Finally, as the late great Bill Hicks said, "I was over in Australia and I was asked, 'are you proud to be an American?' And I was like, 'I didn't have a lot to with it you know. My parents f***ed there. That's about all.'"

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