southsideirish71 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 21, 2009 -> 08:29 AM) The Score is indeed reporting the deal is done pending Peavy approval, no mention of players at all. It makes sense. The division is crap and we have played our worst baseball. Kenny smells blood and thinks he can win this division again. In a short series. Peavy, Danks, and Buerhle is deadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 (edited) If this is true, and I still have my doubts, its the type of move KW should have been looking at months ago instead of going cheap. I thought they were at their payroll limit. If there is any truth to this rumor, it does show you they BS about that. Of course the Hunter and Fukudome pursuits are more proof of that. A couple of other things, maybe Floyd is in the deal. The Sox would not be getting SD to pay part of Peavy's contract because financial relief is the reason SD is trading him. Interesting that Peavy supposedly has reservations about playing for Ozzie. There have been a few names that have rejected trades to the White Sox. Delgado, Edmonds...the only guy I know who rejected going to the Cubs is Palmiero, which probably was a big mistake by him. He may have avoided his positive test or it could have been more awesome for us if he tested positive as a Cub. If this is true, it would be KW's finest hour IMO. Pitching wins. This just reminds me of the Soriano rumor in 2006. Probably not as much to it as has been reported. Edited May 21, 2009 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 I wonder if Linebrink will convince him to waive his NTC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 (edited) Half of the Cubs talks for Padres didn't even involve their best prospect Josh Vitters, and instead focused on marginal/above average pitchers like Kevin Hart, and Sean Marshall. This could be the direction the package is going in. Edited May 21, 2009 by Thunderbolt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clyons Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 21, 2009 -> 08:33 AM) This just reminds me of the Soriano rumor in 2006. Probably not as much to it as has been reported. My thoughts exactly. Kenny's big moves usually come in under the radar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (GoSox05 @ May 21, 2009 -> 08:32 AM) I don't know why he would want to stay in San Diego. Yeah the weather is nice, but the team is gonna be awful for years. He either stays in SD or the Padres can trade him to a place he finds more desirable. I don't know what's wrong with Chicago in the summer. He doesn't want to go to the AL, but if the White Sox decide to become bullies, they can dominate the AL Central for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Couple of great pieces on Peavy here also; http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/...fort-mechanics/ http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/...yer-jake-peavy/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 As long as the PTBNL's are not any of Beckham, Danks, Flowers, Allen, Viciedo, Carter or Hudson i'm completely fine with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSoxMatt Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ May 21, 2009 -> 08:39 AM) As long as the PTBNL's are not any of Beckham, Danks, Flowers, Allen, Viciedo, Carter or Hudson i'm completely fine with it. As long as its not Danks or Gordon, IM FINE with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankensteiner Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 This would be an unbelivable trade if it goes down. My biggest problem with this team is the lack of pitching depth for the next few years. This deal obviously solve those problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ May 21, 2009 -> 08:39 AM) As long as the PTBNL's are not any of Beckham, Danks, Flowers, Allen, Viciedo, Carter or Hudson i'm completely fine with it. The last 2 I could live with. I'd say the Pads would want all of the good young pitching they could get with this deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (DBAHO @ May 21, 2009 -> 08:42 AM) The last 2 I could live with. I'd say the Pads would want all of the good young pitching they could get with this deal. Hudson>Poreda in my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 21, 2009 -> 08:29 AM) The Score is indeed reporting the deal is done pending Peavy approval, no mention of players at all. The Score tends to be wrong a lot, but if its true, wow, everytime people start doubting KW and getting upset with him, he starts pulling moves like these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSoxMatt Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Within the clubhouse, though, Peavy referred to the situation as “something to think about” yet also restated his desire to stay in the National League. One of Peavy's teammates said he believes Peavy respects the Sox's aggressiveness in pushing for him but may have reservations about pitching for Ozzie Guillen, the White Sox's volatile manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (WSoxMatt @ May 21, 2009 -> 08:41 AM) As long as its not Danks or Gordon, IM FINE with it So long as Gordon, Jordan, Tyler and Brandon aren't mentioned ill be happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 I'd have reservations with trading Beckham, Slayer, Allen, Flowers, Danks and Viciedo. And i'd really miss Poreda but we're talking Jake Peavy, here. This isn't SeaWorld, guys. This is as real as it gets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 I think this deal would be made with the long term in mind. Giles would be a placeholder in RF for the season and bat lead off. Peavy would solidify the top of the starting rotation with Buerhle and Danks and mean that we only are relying on the minors for one starter next season from Marquez, Hudson, and whomever else. I can see KW signing Abreu in the offseason to fill the gap in RF when Giles moves on/retires. So the deal sounds like Dye, Poreda, Richard, and Getz? Peavy and Giles ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RibbieRubarb Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (WSoxMatt @ May 21, 2009 -> 08:44 AM) Within the clubhouse, though, Peavy referred to the situation as “something to think about” yet also restated his desire to stay in the National League. One of Peavy's teammates said he believes Peavy respects the Sox's aggressiveness in pushing for him but may have reservations about pitching for Ozzie Guillen, the White Sox's volatile manager. A phone call from Scott Linebrink should clear that up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (DBAHO @ May 21, 2009 -> 09:42 AM) The last 2 I could live with. I'd say the Pads would want all of the good young pitching they could get with this deal. On their own I'd agree, but giving up one of them in combination with Richard and Poreda is a bit much IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick0984 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ May 21, 2009 -> 08:45 AM) I think this deal would be made with the long term in mind. Giles would be a placeholder in RF for the season and bat lead off. Peavy would solidify the top of the starting rotation with Buerhle and Danks and mean that we only are relying on the minors for one starter next season from Marquez, Hudson, and whomever else. I can see KW signing Abreu in the offseason to fill the gap in RF when Giles moves on/retires. So the deal sounds like Dye, Poreda, Richard, and Getz? Peavy and Giles ?? That sounds awful to me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 If this happens today I will rub one out at my cubicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (beautox @ May 21, 2009 -> 08:44 AM) So long as Gordon, Jordan, Tyler and Brandon aren't mentioned ill be happy. Wow, this thread is growing exponentially. As soon as I read a page another pops up. Anyway, although I'm not very well versed in our minors, from what I've read from the more knowledgable folks here I would agree that Beckham, Danks, and/or Flowers cannot be part of this deal. It's not worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ May 21, 2009 -> 08:46 AM) If this happens today I will rub one out at my cubicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RibbieRubarb Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ May 21, 2009 -> 08:46 AM) If this happens today I will rub one out at my cubicle. Oh, you were probably planning on doing that anyway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (Maverick0984 @ May 21, 2009 -> 09:46 AM) That sounds awful to me... I actually think that's fair. Giles is just now starting to hit, and his numbers will experience some severe inflation in the Cell. Best case scenario for Poreda and Richard's combined numbers could be Peavy, and Getz remains something of an enigma. Edited May 21, 2009 by Thunderbolt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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