JPN366 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 21, 2009 -> 12:52 AM) Retherford isn't close to being the caliber of a Biggio, that guy's going to be in the Hall of Fame, a lock. He certainly doesn't have the speed. I'll respectfully disagree, but C.J. is a great hitter, and I think he'll be an everyday player for the White Sox come 2011...if he doesn't get traded, then he'll be an everyday player for someone else in 2011. Edited May 21, 2009 by JPN366 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 The thing is, the Padres aren't up against the wall to make this deal now. The timing for San Diego doesn't make sense at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickofypres Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 anyone know when we will find out exactly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (JPN366 @ May 21, 2009 -> 01:04 AM) The thing is, the Padres aren't up against the wall to make this deal now. The timing for San Diego doesn't make sense at all. Padres are 10 games out already, Peavy will be shopped if not now then before the deadline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (JPN366 @ May 21, 2009 -> 01:04 AM) The thing is, the Padres aren't up against the wall to make this deal now. The timing for San Diego doesn't make sense at all. From what I've heard the faster they get rid of his contract the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 I don't think this is the best deal they can get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockren Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (JPN366 @ May 21, 2009 -> 12:16 AM) I don't think this is the best deal they can get. I agree...but it depends how much they like Poreda and who the other players involved in the deal are. It may be wishful thinking on our part, but it's also plausible for San Diego. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 How about a mega trade of Adrian Gonzalez and Jake Peavy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Whomever it is with the "CRAP" signature will sure be pissed if this goes down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (JPN366 @ May 21, 2009 -> 01:24 AM) Whomever it is with the "CRAP" signature will sure be pissed if this goes down. Thunderbolt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 More internet rumors that wont come true. move on people, we know that anything that is released to the media is not done by KW in the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamPabloOzuna Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/200...te-sox-may-be-/ San Diego Union-Tribune has picked up the story. Apparently Peavy met with Bud Black late last night to discuss a trade. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 :o P.S. One of Peavy's teammates said he believes Peavy respects the Sox's aggressiveness in pushing for him but may have reservations about pitching for Ozzie Guillen, the White Sox's volatile manager. Haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (IamPabloOzuna @ May 21, 2009 -> 02:15 AM) http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/200...te-sox-may-be-/ San Diego Union-Tribune has picked up the story. Apparently Peavy met with Bud Black late last night to discuss a trade. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Well, it's atleast a rumor with legs now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSoxfan1986 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 I'm not sure how I feel about this trade. Peavy's #'s are inflated from the NL and Petco, and I'm not sure the Sox have enough to win the division this year even with him. That being said, I'm not a huge Poreda fan (I think there's a good chance he'll be end up in the bullpen), and it looks like he's the main piece in the trade. As long as were not giving up Beckham or Flowers, I don't really have a problem with this. Hey, plus if we get him at least it means he won't be going to the Cubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty22hotty Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 I wonder how Kennys package could be better than what the Cubs offered... If he accepts the Sox would have the best 1-2 in the central Man I still wish Kenny kept Vazquez as a #4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 This is getting interesting!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (WhiteSoxfan1986 @ May 21, 2009 -> 02:18 AM) I'm not sure how I feel about this trade. Peavy's #'s are inflated from the NL and Petco, and I'm not sure the Sox have enough to win the division this year even with him. That being said, I'm not a huge Poreda fan (I think there's a good chance he'll be end up in the bullpen), and it looks like he's the main piece in the trade. As long as were not giving up Beckham or Flowers, I don't really have a problem with this. Hey, plus if we get him at least it means he won't be going to the Cubs. The last season and a bit his numbers away from PETCO aren't great, but I think if the Sox have a chance to do this they should. Gavin Floyd's stock is down, and Contreras we may never see again, and who know what the Sox are going to do with Colon after this season. So they're gonna need a starting pitcher soon enough (or they would have in the off-season), and Peavy I think is the perfect target (so long as the PTBNL isn't Beckham, Flowers or Allen, rather a Dan Hudson, Stephen Upchurch or Dexter Carter). Peavy, Buehrle and Danks would argubly be the best 1-2-3 punch for a rotation in the AL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (scotty22hotty @ May 21, 2009 -> 02:24 AM) 1 - I wonder how Kennys package could be better than what the Cubs offered... 2 - If he accepts the Sox would have the best 1-2 in the central 3 - Man I still wish Kenny kept Vazquez as a #4. 1 - The Cubs minor league system is garbage. The Sox have legitimate prospects at this point, and have the pitching prospect. 2 - Most likely, though KC is up there with Greinke-nameyourpitcher 3 - The Sox would not even be able to think of trading for Peavy had they not traded Vazquez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Vitters is the only prospect worth a damn in the Cubs system. San Diego is not Pittsburgh. Hendry is not going to rip them off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 No Trade Clause, White Sox, no way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (JPN366 @ May 20, 2009 -> 11:04 PM) The thing is, the Padres aren't up against the wall to make this deal now. The timing for San Diego doesn't make sense at all. now is the time if you want to stay at 40 mil like the friars do. the longer peavy gets paid this season, the more over budget they're going to go. sounds like he's not going to wave his NTC. Too bad. Wonder where the knock on Ozzie and starting pitchers comes from? The way he handled Sean Tracy? Called out Javy for his lack of big game ability? Questioned Boone's manhood? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamPabloOzuna Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (Jimbo's Drinker @ May 21, 2009 -> 02:45 AM) No Trade Clause, White Sox, no way you make a compelling argument Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Just some numbers here on Peavy FWIW; FIP - Fielding Independent Pitching, a measure of all those things for which a pitcher is specifically responsible. The formula is (HR*13+(BB+HBP-IBB)*3-K*2)/IP, plus a league-specific factor (usually around 3.2) to round out the number to an equivalent ERA number. FIP helps you understand how well a pitcher pitched, regardless of how well his fielders fielded. 06 - 3.41 07 - 2.80 08 - 3.65 09 - 3.40 I think the whole NL to AL theory is overblown still FWIW, but going from PETCO to the Cell would be interesting to watch when his GB% is just above 40%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (IamPabloOzuna @ May 21, 2009 -> 02:47 AM) you make a compelling argument Would you wanna play in a hitting park, with a crazy manager and a underachieving team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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