Kyyle23 Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 We all expect a sunday lineup and a maybe grumbling and some hat tippin' after the game towards Greinke, I say lets watch the Sox become an abberation on Greinke's otherwise spectacular year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanky Panky Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 Yeah, today is going to be tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 Greinke is due for a mediocre outing, right? I'll take 6 innings, 3 ER. I like Danks against KC. Should be a good pitcher's duel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLAK Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 Think we'll see our new catcher? Day game after a night game and its Sunday. Welcome to the American league Mr. Castro, meet Mr. Greinke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 QUOTE (TLAK @ May 31, 2009 -> 09:01 AM) Think we'll see our new catcher? Day game after a night game and its Sunday. Welcome to the American league Mr. Castro, meet Mr. Greinke. imagine if Greinke played in a pitchers park in the NL, like CitiField... that'd be nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 I have no problem tipping the ole cap to Zack at this point in time. 4-1 thus far on the road trip is great. Last night was one of the best games I have see all season from them. A loss today I am fine with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ May 31, 2009 -> 09:24 AM) I have no problem tipping the ole cap to Zack at this point in time. 4-1 thus far on the road trip is great. Last night was one of the best games I have see all season from them. A loss today I am fine with. I read where Zach had an era under one after 10 starts. This is the first time it has happened in the AL since 1958, and the NL since 1966. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 QUOTE (TLAK @ May 31, 2009 -> 09:01 AM) Think we'll see our new catcher? Day game after a night game and its Sunday. Welcome to the American league Mr. Castro, meet Mr. Greinke. I hope not. AJ is one of the only guys on our team that hits Greinke well. AJ can suck it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 Batters are hitting .135/.164/.135/.298 against Zack with RISP with 21 K in 52 AB (40% K rate). Only 8 runs have scored in 57 opportunities. 14% success rate. He's allowed 2 hits in 22 AB w/ RISP & 2 out with 8 K's and 1 BB. Only 2 runs have scored in 23 opportunities. 9% success rate. He's loaded the base 4 times and has struck out all 4 batters that have come to the plate. He's faced 283 batters this season and has allowed 15 extra base hits. Incredibly scary: .203 batting average against but a .290 BABIP which is exactly where it's supposed to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisox2334 Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 WHITE SOX Podsednik, LF Ramirez, SS Dye, RF Thome, DH Konerko, 1B Pierzynski, C Wise, CF Getz, 2B Fields, 3B Danks, P KANSAS CITY Bloomquist, 2B Maier, CF Butler, 1B Jacobs, DH Guillen, RF Teahen, 3B Olivo, C DeJesus, LF Hernandez, SS Greinke, P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 one thing i've noticed about Greinke (i've watched almost all of his starts since I have the MLB TV Premium package), is that he gets so many hitters out on that hard slider down and in to lefties and down and away to righties, that pitch appears as a strike and is never one he never throws that pitch in the beginning of a count, he always throws a 4 seam 95-96mph fastball on the corner and sometimes over the plate for a strike, when hitters are down 0-2 or 1-2, he starts throwing that devastating slider this is a situation of course where, to be successful against Zack, you need to stop trusting your eyes on 2-strike counts and start analyzing the count your in and what pitch to expect instead, work the count to 2-2 or 3-2 and try to get him to feature something in the strike zone (his curveball or that mid-90's 4 seam fastball) against our lineup, i think a pitcher like Zack would rather walk a bunch of guys and try to get out of a 2-on or bases loaded jam, because his stuff is so good rather than throw hittable pitches on 2-2 or 3-2 with that said, it's easier said than done of course, i'm not speculating as to finding the key to beating Zack, but it pretty much is the solution. executing that will be the challenge of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 This is going to be a huge win for us today. We will be the first to touch up Mr.Untouchable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 Is this game on WGN just because Greinke's pitching? Sunday games are usually on CSN. What's up with this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Mileage Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 Checking in... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 I never thought I'd see the day where Ozzie has 3 lefties batting in a row! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 QUOTE (Kalapse @ May 31, 2009 -> 10:45 AM) Batters are hitting .135/.164/.135/.298 against Zack with RISP with 21 K in 52 AB (40% K rate). Only 8 runs have scored in 57 opportunities. 14% success rate. He's allowed 2 hits in 22 AB w/ RISP & 2 out with 8 K's and 1 BB. Only 2 runs have scored in 23 opportunities. 9% success rate. He's loaded the base 4 times and has struck out all 4 batters that have come to the plate. He's faced 283 batters this season and has allowed 15 extra base hits. Incredibly scary: .203 batting average against but a .290 BABIP which is exactly where it's supposed to be. He's due for an outing where he gets rocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Mileage Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ May 31, 2009 -> 08:43 AM) Greinke is due for a mediocre outing, right? I'll take 6 innings, 3 ER. I like Danks against KC. Should be a good pitcher's duel. With our offense/defense, 3 runs would probably be enough for win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 (edited) I really missed seeing Wise in CF, joy! (not that BA would have a chance against Greinke, it's just annoying that we don't have our best defensive team out there when it looks like every run today will be very valuable) Edited May 31, 2009 by Felix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoMB345 Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 I predict Greinke gives up his first HR to one Jim Thome. Same lineup with Wise subbed in for BA.. ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoMB345 Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 So does Wise get the extra-long leash? I'm sure he'll get every opportunity (and then some) to prove he's not the worst player on the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted May 31, 2009 Author Share Posted May 31, 2009 Do we really have to go through all of this Wise grief already? The guy was just recalled, he hasnt even seen the field but a couple of times, and people are already calling him out. He isnt replacing Quentin, he isnt replacing Dye, he is not replacing BA, he is in the Sunday lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoMB345 Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (kyyle23 @ May 31, 2009 -> 12:44 PM) Do we really have to go through all of this Wise grief already? The guy was just recalled, he hasnt even seen the field but a couple of times, and people are already calling him out. He isnt replacing Quentin, he isnt replacing Dye, he is not replacing BA, he is in the Sunday lineup. I fully disagree, as this is definitely not a Sunday lineup. And Wise is horrible, horrible, horrible. He belongs nowhere near the ML roster. AND on top of that, he was put in as a replacement to BA in a TIE BALL GAME in the 8th or 9th inning last night. WTF? Pull our best defender for a guy who knocked himself out of baseball for 60 days last time he was out there? So glad nothing came of it, but it was a horrible move by Ozzie. Edited May 31, 2009 by TitoMB345 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted May 31, 2009 Author Share Posted May 31, 2009 QUOTE (TitoMB345 @ May 31, 2009 -> 12:46 PM) I fully disagree, as this is definitely not a Sunday lineup. And Wise is horrible, horrible, horrible. He belongs nowhere near the ML roster. Yeah, I got it the first two times you said it. Its ridiculous, give it a rest already. BA had a tough last couple of days and is getting a rest Wise is sure to spread the plague soon after the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 QUOTE (TitoMB345 @ May 31, 2009 -> 12:46 PM) I fully disagree, as this is definitely not a Sunday lineup. And Wise is horrible, horrible, horrible. He belongs nowhere near the ML roster. AND on top of that, he was put in as a replacement to BA in a TIE BALL GAME in the 8th or 9th inning last night. WTF? Pull our best defender for a guy who knocked himself out of baseball for 60 days last time he was out there? So glad nothing came of it, but it was a horrible move by Ozzie. oh s***,then I should be at work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoMB345 Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 QUOTE (shipps @ May 31, 2009 -> 12:47 PM) oh s***,then I should be at work. I guess I should have put Sunday in quotes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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