Cali Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 From CS.com Colon watch San Francisco is among the teams that have been scouting right-hander Bartolo Colon, who will start Tuesday against Cleveland. The National League West-leading Giants are in the hunt for a starting pitcher with the July 31 trading deadline approaching. Last year the Sox traded center fielder Kenny Lofton to San Francisco on July 28 for minor-league pitchers Felix Diaz and Ryan Meaux. Colon has not won since June 7, and his ERA jumped to 4.36 after he gave up five runs to the Tigers on Friday after a 3-hour-6-minute rain delay. But if the Sox determine they're out of playoff contention next week and make him available, Colon will be coveted. While I don't think Colon will be traded, any trade of him to SF would have to include Williams or Foppert, and I wouldn't mind having either of those studs in the black and silver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 trade him yesterday.............do it ... do it.........doooo it............... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndySoxFan Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 gosh, i sure would miss the big guy....green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 "Take our Colon, PLEASE!!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2003 Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 f***ed up thing is soon as we trade Colon he'll turn into the 20 gm winner he was a year ago. Isn't that the way it always goes for us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 From CS.com Colon watch San Francisco is among the teams that have been scouting right-hander Bartolo Colon, who will start Tuesday against Cleveland. The National League West-leading Giants are in the hunt for a starting pitcher with the July 31 trading deadline approaching. Last year the Sox traded center fielder Kenny Lofton to San Francisco on July 28 for minor-league pitchers Felix Diaz and Ryan Meaux. Colon has not won since June 7, and his ERA jumped to 4.36 after he gave up five runs to the Tigers on Friday after a 3-hour-6-minute rain delay. But if the Sox determine they're out of playoff contention next week and make him available, Colon will be coveted. While I don't think Colon will be traded, any trade of him to SF would have to include Williams or Foppert, and I wouldn't mind having either of those studs in the black and silver. I bet if we traded him the deal as you said would involve one of those pitchers but also Pedro Feliz. He is a 3rd baseman, possibly allowing us to trade Crede to the O's for Ponson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 From CS.com Colon watch San Francisco is among the teams that have been scouting right-hander Bartolo Colon, who will start Tuesday against Cleveland. The National League West-leading Giants are in the hunt for a starting pitcher with the July 31 trading deadline approaching. Last year the Sox traded center fielder Kenny Lofton to San Francisco on July 28 for minor-league pitchers Felix Diaz and Ryan Meaux. Colon has not won since June 7, and his ERA jumped to 4.36 after he gave up five runs to the Tigers on Friday after a 3-hour-6-minute rain delay. But if the Sox determine they're out of playoff contention next week and make him available, Colon will be coveted. While I don't think Colon will be traded, any trade of him to SF would have to include Williams or Foppert, and I wouldn't mind having either of those studs in the black and silver. I bet if we traded him the deal as you said would involve one of those pitchers but also Pedro Feliz. He is a 3rd baseman, possibly allowing us to trade Crede to the O's for Ponson. Umm if we trade Colon away, we are not going to bring another another front line veteran. If Colon goes, this ship is being dismantled and put into dry dock until at least 2004. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loaiza21 Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 Foppert would be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 From CS.com Colon watch San Francisco is among the teams that have been scouting right-hander Bartolo Colon, who will start Tuesday against Cleveland. The National League West-leading Giants are in the hunt for a starting pitcher with the July 31 trading deadline approaching. Last year the Sox traded center fielder Kenny Lofton to San Francisco on July 28 for minor-league pitchers Felix Diaz and Ryan Meaux. Colon has not won since June 7, and his ERA jumped to 4.36 after he gave up five runs to the Tigers on Friday after a 3-hour-6-minute rain delay. But if the Sox determine they're out of playoff contention next week and make him available, Colon will be coveted. While I don't think Colon will be traded, any trade of him to SF would have to include Williams or Foppert, and I wouldn't mind having either of those studs in the black and silver. I bet if we traded him the deal as you said would involve one of those pitchers but also Pedro Feliz. He is a 3rd baseman, possibly allowing us to trade Crede to the O's for Ponson. Umm if we trade Colon away, we are not going to bring another another front line veteran. If Colon goes, this ship is being dismantled and put into dry dock until at least 2004. I don't consider Feliz a veteran. Yes he has been in the majors for 3-4 years but he hasn't played much at all, until this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 From CS.com Colon watch San Francisco is among the teams that have been scouting right-hander Bartolo Colon, who will start Tuesday against Cleveland. The National League West-leading Giants are in the hunt for a starting pitcher with the July 31 trading deadline approaching. Last year the Sox traded center fielder Kenny Lofton to San Francisco on July 28 for minor-league pitchers Felix Diaz and Ryan Meaux. Colon has not won since June 7, and his ERA jumped to 4.36 after he gave up five runs to the Tigers on Friday after a 3-hour-6-minute rain delay. But if the Sox determine they're out of playoff contention next week and make him available, Colon will be coveted. While I don't think Colon will be traded, any trade of him to SF would have to include Williams or Foppert, and I wouldn't mind having either of those studs in the black and silver. I bet if we traded him the deal as you said would involve one of those pitchers but also Pedro Feliz. He is a 3rd baseman, possibly allowing us to trade Crede to the O's for Ponson. Umm if we trade Colon away, we are not going to bring another another front line veteran. If Colon goes, this ship is being dismantled and put into dry dock until at least 2004. I don't consider Feliz a veteran. Yes he has been in the majors for 3-4 years but he hasn't played much at all, until this year. I was talking about Ponson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 From CS.com Colon watch San Francisco is among the teams that have been scouting right-hander Bartolo Colon, who will start Tuesday against Cleveland. The National League West-leading Giants are in the hunt for a starting pitcher with the July 31 trading deadline approaching. Last year the Sox traded center fielder Kenny Lofton to San Francisco on July 28 for minor-league pitchers Felix Diaz and Ryan Meaux. Colon has not won since June 7, and his ERA jumped to 4.36 after he gave up five runs to the Tigers on Friday after a 3-hour-6-minute rain delay. But if the Sox determine they're out of playoff contention next week and make him available, Colon will be coveted. While I don't think Colon will be traded, any trade of him to SF would have to include Williams or Foppert, and I wouldn't mind having either of those studs in the black and silver. I bet if we traded him the deal as you said would involve one of those pitchers but also Pedro Feliz. He is a 3rd baseman, possibly allowing us to trade Crede to the O's for Ponson. Umm if we trade Colon away, we are not going to bring another another front line veteran. If Colon goes, this ship is being dismantled and put into dry dock until at least 2004. I don't consider Feliz a veteran. Yes he has been in the majors for 3-4 years but he hasn't played much at all, until this year. I was talking about Ponson. Well then that would make since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmmmbeeer Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 I honestly believe that Colon is a guy that we want on our staff if we make it to the playoffs. The guy can be, has been, and will continue to be a gamer. He's obviously not bringing his best stuff to the table as of late but I don't think he's smelling the competition like he needs to. I think it would be a huge mistake to drop him while we're still in the hunt. Granted, a guy like Ponson or Lidle may do us more good while on the path to winning the division, but come playoff time I'd take Colon over either of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPSOX12 Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 Kenny will not trade Colon. He is stuck in chicago untill the end of the season. The Sox are not sellers this year but buyers as demonstrated by the two big acquistions. Kenny is going for it all this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2003 Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 Colon is throwin a gem today...I had a feeling he would step up....Way to go Bartolo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 I'd do Colon for Foppert straight up, but I hardly think San Fran is that stupid... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 I'd do Colon for Foppert straight up, but I hardly think San Fran is that stupid... I would demand Ainsworth and Foppert. I guarantee they'd do it to. Throw in a reliever like Wunsch if they ask for more. I know they'd do it if you gave up Gordon (They could use a closer). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 We would be gettin screwed if we just get Foppert for Colon.. I say Foppert and some MORE to make that deal fair.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesox247 Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 Colon for Foppert? No f***ing way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 If the Sox were to blow things up, I could guarantee the Sox could rebuild their rotation with Ainsworth, Foppert, and Boffner for Gordon and Colon. Giants would become front runners to win it all (IMO) and Sox would get guys that could help them this year and then in many years to come. Not saying they should blow things up, Sox have till the 27th for me to lay my verdict on that They may be winning now, but I've had confidence in them in the past when they get on a hot streak. They need to clobber the Jays and the Mariners and such. Actually they just need to start clobbering everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 I would demand Ainsworth and Foppert. I guarantee they'd do it to. Throw in a reliever like Wunsch if they ask for more. I know they'd do it if you gave up Gordon (They could use a closer). I would rather get Williams and Boffer than Foppert and Ainsworth. Williams has proved himslef in the majors this year pitching very well for the the Giants, while Foppert has talent he hasn't done much in the majors. And Ainsworth seems to be always hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 I have mixed emotions. If we trade Colon, that seems stupid after acquiring 2 veterans who are supposed to help us win the division. We trade Colon for prospects and what the hell are we saying here?? I think we should ride it out with Colon all season then if we don't win it, trade him in the winter when somebody else is gonna be all excited about acquiring Colon for 4 prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 I have mixed emotions. If we trade Colon, that seems stupid after acquiring 2 veterans who are supposed to help us win the division. We trade Colon for prospects and what the hell are we saying here?? I think we should ride it out with Colon all season then if we don't win it, trade him in the winter when somebody else is gonna be all excited about acquiring Colon for 4 prospects. Its not going to happen now that we are 5 games back and .500. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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