Texsox Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 9, 2009 -> 08:08 AM) not mine: ""Much better than the days when news of some unexpected international recognition for our president meant that somebody threw a shoe at him."" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted October 9, 2009 Author Share Posted October 9, 2009 QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 9, 2009 -> 08:06 AM) Eh, Bush had the admirable AIDS policy. Except that it was tied to abstinence-only education without condoms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 9, 2009 -> 01:13 PM) Except that it was tied to abstinence-only education without condoms. Blame Jesse Helms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 9, 2009 -> 09:13 AM) Except that it was tied to abstinence-only education without condoms. I'm no Bush apologist but it was far more than anyone else has ever done. They loved him there for it. No joke. Probably the only place Bush is popular outside of the Bible Belt and Israel. Edited October 9, 2009 by lostfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted October 9, 2009 Author Share Posted October 9, 2009 QUOTE (Tex @ Oct 9, 2009 -> 07:56 AM) Not going to happen. Hordes of REPs are figuring out how to mitigate the "damage" and use it to make him look bad. Meanwhile hordes of DEM strategists are figuring out how to maximize the award to their advantage. Well, its already meaningless in their eyes thanks to Carter and Gore winning it. But, like NSS said, I meant us smart folks here at Soxtalk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 I didn't realize they gave the peace prize to scocialist communist Nazi facist dictators Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Oct 9, 2009 -> 08:05 AM) Bush got nominated too. I think the US president just gets nominated by default. Being nominated is a joke. Winning it is a big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 I'd wear my medal to Israeli peace talks and keep asking bibi what awards he's won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Oct 9, 2009 -> 07:44 AM) I'm sure it was the same voting panel for both with the same criteria. Of course you missed the big picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 9, 2009 -> 09:21 AM) Of course you missed the big picture. Eh the comparison is not a good one. The Olympics don't have anything to do with Obama directly. Awarding him a Nobel Peace Prize does (we all agree that he hasn't accomplished much yet besides laying out how he's going to get there). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted October 9, 2009 Author Share Posted October 9, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 9, 2009 -> 08:21 AM) Of course you missed the big picture. But you're missing the important details. Its different people with different reasons deciding different things from a different candidate pool. "The rest of the world" isn't one big homogeneous entity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 We should also remember this was decided by a panel of 5 people in Norway, albeit from a wide political spectrum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 unanimously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 9, 2009 -> 08:28 AM) unanimously. Correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 I am petty, and sort of enjoying the fact that this is like a symbolic kick in the balls to Matt Drudge who often tries to imply what the "rest of the world" thinks of Obama when he has obviously never read anything other than American or British news in his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Oct 9, 2009 -> 08:22 AM) Eh the comparison is not a good one. The Olympics don't have anything to do with Obama directly. Awarding him a Nobel Peace Prize does (we all agree that he hasn't accomplished much yet besides laying out how he's going to get there). Why not? The big reason the left wingers gave us is that the United States image in the world has been completely destroyed beyond anything that Obama could do to fix it. But now that is good enough for a Nobel Peace prize? Don't get me wrong, he has tried in a few places, but when you look at the history of what people have accomplished to win it, I can see how it would be questioned. Let me put it this way, if Obama had succeeded anyone but Bush, we probably would have won the Olympics, and not gotten the Nobel prize. Both of these feel like BS international politics, and they really shouldn't. It totally cheapens the idea and concept behind both of these ideals. If both of these are going to become vindictive tools, the are both quickly on their way to becoming irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 The president winning the Nobel Peace Prize is good news for John McCain. When will President Obama close the deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 9, 2009 -> 08:33 AM) Why not? The big reason the left wingers gave us is that the United States image in the world has been completely destroyed beyond anything that Obama could do to fix it. But now that is good enough for a Nobel Peace prize? Don't get me wrong, he has tried in a few places, but when you look at the history of what people have accomplished to win it, I can see how it would be questioned. Let me put it this way, if Obama had succeeded anyone but Bush, we probably would have won the Olympics, and not gotten the Nobel prize. Both of these feel like BS international politics, and they really shouldn't. It totally cheapens the idea and concept behind both of these ideals. If both of these are going to become vindictive tools, the are both quickly on their way to becoming irrelevant. So you are saying that Obama being awarded the prize, cheapens it? Or only depending on the reasons behind it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Has anyone even read the rationale behind him winning it or it this all criticism from reading the headline? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 We all pretty much agreed that he hasn't accomplished anything but he's not the first one to be awarded at the beginning rather than the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 His work with nuclear Non-Proliferation, i'm guessing is a big part of this. He really wants to earn that award he should end these wars we are in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Oct 9, 2009 -> 08:49 AM) He really wants to earn that award he should end these wars we are in. ^^^^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 (edited) That is a lot more complicated than you guys say it is. It's not like he can just pull everything back instantly and be done by the end of the year. Edited October 9, 2009 by lostfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 When I first read this headline I thought it was a joke, but if you think about it he's doing his job just like anyone doing medical or scientific research, and it must be looked upon as extremely positive. This is really interesting and goes to show the feelings of Obama abroad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Oct 9, 2009 -> 08:55 AM) This is really interesting and goes to show the feelings of Obama abroad. And leave it to the American right wing to crap on something we should be proud of. Just like they laughed at us losing an Olympic bid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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