jasonxctf Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 QUOTE (jasonxctf @ Mar 9, 2010 -> 03:35 AM) $710 billion wasted on Iraq. Makes me sick to my stomach. Taxpayers in Congressional District 14 (Foster) will pay $2.5 billion for total Iraq war spending since 2003. For the same amount of money, the following could have been provided: 1,047,264 People with Health Care for One Year OR 51,586 Public Safety Officers for One year OR 43,725 Music and Arts Teachers for One Year OR 253,699 Scholarships for University Students for One Year OR 451,722 Students receiving Pell Grants of $5550 OR 18,177 Affordable Housing Units OR 1,727,741 Children with Health Care for One Year OR 371,086 Head Start Places for Children for One Year OR 38,533 Elementary School Teachers for One Year OR 3,333,958 Homes with Renewable Electricity for One Year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cknolls Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 QUOTE (lostfan @ Mar 8, 2010 -> 05:55 PM) Wow... he's gonna send that directly to Secretary Gates? I guess Michael Yon (don't know who he is) has some kind of journalistic access? If it's something the local Spanish base commander is responsible for that's jumping way over the chain, because it's something that can be handled via normal military channels - if it's something about the Spanish military in general, yeah, that's gonna require Gates and other diplomats get involved, tear a couple of new assholes. He is a former special forces member who reports from Iraq/Afghanistan with the contributions of donors. Has some really good stuff out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 Um... President Hamid Karzai lashed out at his Western backers for the second time in three days, accusing the U.S. of interfering in Afghan affairs and saying the Taliban insurgency would become a legitimate resistance movement if the meddling doesn't stop. Mr. Karzai, whose government is propped up by billions of dollars in Western aid and nearly 100,000 American troops fighting a deadly war against the Taliban, made the comments during a private meeting with about 60 or 70 Afghan lawmakers Saturday. At one point, Mr. Karzai suggested that he himself would be compelled to join the other side —that is, the Taliban—if the parliament didn't back his controversial attempt to take control of the country's electoral watchdog from the United Nations, according to three people who attended the meeting, including an ally of the president. Mr. Karzai blamed the lawmakers' resistance to his move on a foreign conspiracy, they said. The Afghan president's latest remarks came less than 24 hours after he assured U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton that he was committed to working with the U.S. That phone call was precipitated by a similar—but less vitriolic--anti-Western diatribe Mr. Karzai delivered earlier last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Feb 27, 2010 -> 09:18 AM) http://www.costofwar.com/ All spending is good spending! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 QUOTE (mr_genius @ Apr 4, 2010 -> 06:34 PM) All spending is good spending! Healthcare with Bankruptz us!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 Taxpayers in Congressional District 14 (Foster) will pay $2.5 billion for total Iraq war spending since 2003. For the same amount of money, the following could have been provided: 1,047,264 People with Health Care for One Year OR 51,586 Public Safety Officers for One year OR 43,725 Music and Arts Teachers for One Year OR 253,699 Scholarships for University Students for One Year OR 451,722 Students receiving Pell Grants of $5550 OR 18,177 Affordable Housing Units OR 1,727,741 Children with Health Care for One Year OR 371,086 Head Start Places for Children for One Year OR 38,533 Elementary School Teachers for One Year OR 3,333,958 Homes with Renewable Electricity for One Year Breaking news: War is not cheap. Sometime we have to assert ourselves to other countries and remind them who's boss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Apr 4, 2010 -> 10:14 PM) Breaking news: War is not cheap. Sometime we have to assert ourselves to other countries and remind them who's boss. When did you become a neocon? I didn't get that memo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 duke's trying to become some lame tom friedman clone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 Would you rather have a bunch of F-22's or 60,000 more art teachers? Seriously, ask yourself that question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 teachers. f-22 is a ridiculous program. but yeah, i get it, we need to tell those iraqis to suck. on. this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 The reason people call the F-22 ridiculous is that the things are so grossly overpowered that they've made the very concept of fighter jets obsolete. Besides, those planes are not being made to kill any Iraqi's or Afghans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Apr 5, 2010 -> 01:49 AM) The reason people call the F-22 ridiculous is that the things are so grossly overpowered that they've made the very concept of fighter jets obsolete. Besides, those planes are not being made to kill any Iraqi's or Afghans. Is there actually anyone they're being made to kill who, you know, exists? As far as I can tell, they're designed to kill the pilots of the Soviet fighter 2 generations past the current set of MiG's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 it's for top gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 5, 2010 -> 10:29 AM) it's for top gun. The Navy doesn't even fly the 22. They'd fly the F-35. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 my bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 Give me teachers. Who the hell do you think designs those F-22s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Apr 5, 2010 -> 12:37 AM) Would you rather have a bunch of F-22's or 60,000 more art teachers? Seriously, ask yourself that question. How about less waste of space in the financial regulating sector and more teachers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 You underestimate the F-22's ability to regulate the financial sector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 5, 2010 -> 09:51 PM) How about less waste of space in the financial regulating sector and more teachers? Sigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Apr 6, 2010 -> 12:52 AM) You underestimate the F-22's ability to regulate the financial sector. Actually, I wouldn't mind this if they could limit the collateral damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 6, 2010 -> 09:05 AM) Sigh 2k5 isn't actually against financial regulation, it only seems that way because you argue with him so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 After seeing some of this stuff, you know, like up close, fighter planes are cool. But I guess they're worthless in today's hippee love everyone world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 They're cool if they can actually be used - I mean - we could order another 300 F-22s, but what the hell for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 QUOTE (lostfan @ Apr 6, 2010 -> 07:06 PM) They're cool if they can actually be used - I mean - we could order another 300 F-22s, but what the hell for? It's the only economic stimulus dollars the Centrists and Republicans will allow us to spend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 They're cool if they can actually be used - I mean - we could order another 300 F-22s, but what the hell for? Russia and China are both working on new fighter planes and I read something about the F-22 being a lot more capable in air-to-air combat than the F-35, who sacrifices dogfighting ability for utility. Staying one step ahead isn't a bad thing. I really dont mind our defense spending all that much, it costs a lot to maintain a military. Sure, the wars have been kinda ugly, but that's the nature of the beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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