fathom Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jun 8, 2010 -> 10:03 PM) This is a concern about the draft at large. We filled a middle infield need, a pitching need, but not the left-handed pitching need which is a pretty dramatic problem in our organization. When Randy Williams and Wes Whistler are literally our best options, something's gotta give. But obviously the Sox didn't believe anyone in the top 6-7 rounds, outside of Sale, fit what they were looking for from the left side. As someone just pointed out, it's all a matter of luck now anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 8, 2010 -> 06:05 PM) But obviously the Sox didn't believe anyone in the top 6-7 rounds, outside of Sale, fit what they were looking for from the left side. As someone just pointed out, it's all a matter of luck now anyways. So, take one of the many lefty arms out there and hope you luck out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jun 8, 2010 -> 11:06 PM) So, take one of the many lefty arms out there and hope you luck out. If they're just going to get to A ball and suck, does it matter if they throw righty or lefty? We took one of the two best lefty starters in this draft...that's good enough with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 8, 2010 -> 06:04 PM) It is almost worse to take him here than to not take him at all. Isn't that a serious drop from where he was supposed to go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 8, 2010 Author Share Posted June 8, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 8, 2010 -> 05:11 PM) Isn't that a serious drop from where he was supposed to go? Round 5 to 10 was the story before the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jun 8, 2010 -> 06:03 PM) This is a concern about the draft at large. We filled a middle infield need, a pitching need, but not the left-handed pitching need which is a pretty dramatic problem in our organization. When Randy Williams and Wes Whistler are literally our best options, something's gotta give. The answer to that isn't to start spending picks around the 15th round on LHP like crazy. The answer to that winds up being to pick people around the 15th round who develop; whatever position they actually play. You pull off a couple of low draft picks who actually succeed, and suddenly you're a lot more free to spend money to fill other holes that crop up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Round 23- Austin Evans, RHP http://www.tampaspartans.com/profile.asp?playerID=765 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Wow, the guy who scouted University of Tampa is racking it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 8, 2010 -> 06:12 PM) The answer to that isn't to start spending picks around the 15th round on LHP like crazy. The answer to that winds up being to pick people around the 15th round who develop; whatever position they actually play. You pull off a couple of low draft picks who actually succeed, and suddenly you're a lot more free to spend money to fill other holes that crop up. How much of a difference in the later rounds is there between arms? A gamble on a left-hander is just as likely to pay off as one on a RHP. Then again, i wouldn't want to miss out Doug Murray or Tyler Jones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jun 8, 2010 -> 06:17 PM) How much of a difference in the later rounds is there between arms? Now, that's a question to ask your scouts. Presumably, the guys getting drafted at these levels by each team are guys that the team's scouts gave positive reviews to. It's entirely possible that they just wound up liking the RHP more than the LHP at these levels, or that the LHP that they did like have been taken by other teams, so they're not going to reach for LHP just because of the arm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Jun 8, 2010 -> 02:18 PM) The red sox have a deep system because they spend money on the draft. When we figure that out, we will replenish our system and become a force again. Our division is figuring this out. Maybe at some point someone in our organization will as well. We all know the Sox operate on a given budget and this won't change. The dilemma is that if you add money to the draft budget you need to take it fom elsewhere. Do you take 6 million off the MLB salary budget? Personally I would but then you will hear the complaints about not spending money on the MLB team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Lefty OF Jordan Keegan to the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (ptatc @ Jun 8, 2010 -> 05:24 PM) We all know the Sox operate on a given budget and this won't change. The dilemma is that if you add money to the draft budget you need to take it fom elsewhere. Do you take 6 million off the MLB salary budget? Personally I would but then you will hear the complaints about not spending money on the MLB team. I think it is time to do exactly that. Take AJ's salary when it comes off the books and roll it into the development budget. Especially if we are picking closer to the top as I think we all expect to be next season. Those people that complain then turn around and complain about the lack of talent in the farm and lack of winning on the ML level, sometimes you have to tear things down to build them back up and you are not going to keep everyone happy. Edited June 8, 2010 by IowaSoxFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Sounds like Keegan has great speed and hits to all fields. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Ethan Wilson SS from Indiana. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Ball Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jun 8, 2010 -> 11:37 PM) Sounds like Keegan has great speed and hits to all fields. Where did you hear this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 QUOTE (Ozzie Ball @ Jun 8, 2010 -> 06:43 PM) Where did you hear this? Baseball America. It was in a Harper article. Keegan played in Nevada, so got some coverage too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jun 8, 2010 -> 03:02 PM) Austin Wilson to the Cardinals. If they could sign him it would be a great addition to an already outstanding draft. They better not be able to sign him. That would be the steal of the decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heirdog Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jun 8, 2010 -> 06:06 PM) So, take one of the many lefty arms out there and hope you luck out. For every Mark Buehrle, there is a Brandon McCarthy. Wait...Buehrle is/was better than McCarthy. You're right, draft some more lefties, damnit! But seriously, I don't think their looking at Lefty/Righty late in the game, just best talent on their boards. I am surprised at the low amount of OFs though. You would think there are more out there but I guess we plan on putting Ozney and Kenny Jr out there with a platoon of Jared Mitchell and Jordan Danks in center with Pierre as a 5th OF/ player/mentor/coach or whatever Vizquel is now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 8, 2010 -> 10:52 PM) They better not be able to sign him. That would be the steal of the decade. At least it's the Cardinals! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowch Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 I can't believe there's still another half to the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowch Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Cubs got Bryan Harper... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilCan Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Last three WS picks....from FutureSox.com - WE DRAFTED LEFTYS!!! 26 (788): Kevin Rath, LHP, Cal State Fullerton Big lefty (6'5", 220) that says he models his game after Mark Buehrle. 4.50 ERA with 21 K and 26 BB in 30 innings this year as a junior. Made five starts and 14 appearances out of the pen. 27 (818): Pete Gehle, LHP, Asuza Pacific 6'6", 240 pound senior (Noticing a trend with the height?). 7-4, 5.60 ERA, 86 K, 23 BB in 82 IP this year for the NAIA power. 28 (848): Thomas Windle, LHP, Osseo HS (MN) Ranked as No. 191 high school draft prospect in the country by baseballdraftreport.com. Has a commitment to Minnesota. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrenBlackwood Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 8, 2010 -> 02:30 PM) oh, just another catcher...Jose Ramos Chase still isn't worried ...he's just waiting to see what happens ..no need in worrying himself over something he can't control!! He's just happy to be there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 FYI, Ga Tech source tells me they don't expect Grimes to ever play college baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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